Post by HVS Post by Peter Young Post by Peter T. Daniels
"We are delighted to announce the opening of a new store in Mayfair.
"It will be TASCHENâs second outpost in London, following the
opening of the publisherâs flagship store in Chelsea in 2008, and
the brandâs 14th retail space worldwide.
"Located in the Claridgeâs hotel, the store will offer a curated
selection of TASCHEN books and limited editions, including signed
prints from Ellen von Unwerth, Steve Schapiro, Albert Watson, and many
"Stay tuned for more on our upcoming events, exhibitions, and
signings. We look forward to welcoming you!
Is that usual BrE usage? "Nolan Browne" sounds like the name of an English-speaker.
No native BrE speaker would say "The Claridge's Hotel". The article is
Indeed. This may be refutable, but I think it's the possessive that makes
the difference. It's "the Savoy", "the Hilton", or "the Stafford", but
"Claridge's", or "Brown's".
In Tony's example, it would be "the St Regis" if it's named for a place or
street, but "St Regis's" if it's named for a person.
I think my perspective is influenced by the recognizable factor.
"Claridge's" would be a very recognizable name in the UK, and "hotel"
need not be added. While I am familiar with Claridge's through
reading, most Americans would need the word "hotel" to know what
Claridge's is. Therefore, "the Claridge's hotel" does not seem at all
unusual to me.
Drifting a bit, and entering my "logorrrhoeic" [sic] mode, "Brown's"
triggered a thought. We have discussed foods that are named after the
place it was first served. "Waldorf salad", for example.
While you were referring to Brown's in London, the Brown Hotel in
Louisville, Kentucky was once a famous American hotel and is listed in
the National Register of Historic Places. It was built in 1923, and
the first person to sign the guest register was David Lloyd George.
In 1955 - here's where I double-down on "logorrrhoeic" (PTD's
spelling) - my father, my great-uncle, and I went to the Kentucky
Derby in Lexington. On the way back to Indianapolis, we had lunch at
the Brown. Naturally, we ordered the "Hot Brown": an open-face turkey
sandwich with bacon. Wiki says: "The sandwich was featured on the
2002 PBS documentary Sandwiches That You Will Like."
I won $96 at the track on that trip. Not on Kentucky Derby (won by
Swaps), but in betting on the other races. I used that money to join
the private Rivera Club in Indianapolis so I could hang out with the
rich kids at the club's swimming pool that summer. (Tying this thread
with the thread on social factors in schools)
Tony Cooper - Orlando, Florida