Discussion:
not so foolish as to...
Add Reply
a***@gmail.com
2017-12-05 06:50:05 UTC
Reply
Permalink
Raw Message
1) He is not so foolish as to believe that nonsense.
2) He is not so foolish to believe that nonsense.

3) He is not such a fool as to believe that nonsense.
4) He is not such a fool to believe that nonsense.

Which are grammatical?
Which are idiomatic?

Gratefully,
Navi.
Harrison Hill
2017-12-05 07:36:45 UTC
Reply
Permalink
Raw Message
Post by a***@gmail.com
1) He is not so foolish as to believe that nonsense.
2) He is not so foolish to believe that nonsense.
3) He is not such a fool as to believe that nonsense.
4) He is not such a fool to believe that nonsense.
Which are grammatical?
Which are idiomatic?
1 and 3 are natural and grammatical. I think you have spoilt
2 and 4 by giving us 1 and 3, so that the "as" appears to be
missing. 2 and 4 are also good, natural English.
Athel Cornish-Bowden
2017-12-05 08:17:37 UTC
Reply
Permalink
Raw Message
Post by a***@gmail.com
1) He is not so foolish as to believe that nonsense.
2) He is not so foolish to believe that nonsense.
3) He is not such a fool as to believe that nonsense.
4) He is not such a fool to believe that nonsense.
Which are grammatical?
1 and 3 are OK as they stand. 2 and 4 would be OK (though a little
strange) with a comma before "to believe".
Post by a***@gmail.com
Which are idiomatic?
1 and 3 are OK as they stand. 2 and 4 would be OK (though a little
strange) with a comma before "to believe".

However, they don't all mean the same. 1 and 3 mean he would be a fool
if he believed it, but he doesn't, so he isn't. 2 and 4 (with a bit of
mental acrobatics) mean that it isn't really nonsense, and so he's not
a fool if he believes it.
--
athel
Peter T. Daniels
2017-12-05 13:25:47 UTC
Reply
Permalink
Raw Message
Post by a***@gmail.com
1) He is not so foolish as to believe that nonsense.
2) He is not so foolish to believe that nonsense.
3) He is not such a fool as to believe that nonsense.
4) He is not such a fool to believe that nonsense.
Which are grammatical?
(1)
Post by a***@gmail.com
Which are idiomatic?
(1)
Colonel Edmund J. Burke
2017-12-06 02:48:05 UTC
Reply
Permalink
Raw Message
Post by a***@gmail.com
1) He is not so foolish as to believe that nonsense.
2) He is not so foolish to believe that nonsense.
3) He is not such a fool as to believe that nonsense.
4) He is not such a fool to believe that nonsense.
Which are grammatical?
Which are idiomatic?
Gratefully,
Navi.
I think you are idiomatic, or just idiotic, perchance.
LOL

Loading...