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a***@gmail.com
2017-12-05 06:50:05 UTC
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1) He is not so foolish as to believe that nonsense.
2) He is not so foolish to believe that nonsense.

3) He is not such a fool as to believe that nonsense.
4) He is not such a fool to believe that nonsense.

Which are grammatical?
Which are idiomatic?

Gratefully,
Navi.
Harrison Hill
2017-12-05 07:36:45 UTC
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1) He is not so foolish as to believe that nonsense.
2) He is not so foolish to believe that nonsense.
3) He is not such a fool as to believe that nonsense.
4) He is not such a fool to believe that nonsense.
Which are grammatical?
Which are idiomatic?
1 and 3 are natural and grammatical. I think you have spoilt
2 and 4 by giving us 1 and 3, so that the "as" appears to be
missing. 2 and 4 are also good, natural English.
Athel Cornish-Bowden
2017-12-05 08:17:37 UTC
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1) He is not so foolish as to believe that nonsense.
2) He is not so foolish to believe that nonsense.
3) He is not such a fool as to believe that nonsense.
4) He is not such a fool to believe that nonsense.
Which are grammatical?
1 and 3 are OK as they stand. 2 and 4 would be OK (though a little
strange) with a comma before "to believe".
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Which are idiomatic?
1 and 3 are OK as they stand. 2 and 4 would be OK (though a little
strange) with a comma before "to believe".

However, they don't all mean the same. 1 and 3 mean he would be a fool
if he believed it, but he doesn't, so he isn't. 2 and 4 (with a bit of
mental acrobatics) mean that it isn't really nonsense, and so he's not
a fool if he believes it.
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athel
Peter T. Daniels
2017-12-05 13:25:47 UTC
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1) He is not so foolish as to believe that nonsense.
2) He is not so foolish to believe that nonsense.
3) He is not such a fool as to believe that nonsense.
4) He is not such a fool to believe that nonsense.
Which are grammatical?
(1)
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Which are idiomatic?
(1)
Colonel Edmund J. Burke
2017-12-06 02:48:05 UTC
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1) He is not so foolish as to believe that nonsense.
2) He is not so foolish to believe that nonsense.
3) He is not such a fool as to believe that nonsense.
4) He is not such a fool to believe that nonsense.
Which are grammatical?
Which are idiomatic?
Gratefully,
Navi.
I think you are idiomatic, or just idiotic, perchance.
LOL

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