On Sunday, July 8, 2018 at 4:56:53 PM UTC-7, ***@37.com wrote:
> On Sunday, July 8, 2018 at 3:43:26 PM UTC-7, Madrigal Gurneyhalt wrote:
> > On Sunday, 8 July 2018 23:06:28 UTC+1, ***@37.com wrote:
> > > On Friday, July 6, 2018 at 2:37:08 PM UTC-7, Tony Cooper wrote:
> > > > On Fri, 6 Jul 2018 13:43:23 -0700 (PDT), ***@gmail.com wrote:
> > > >
> > > > >Recently, when trying to install some s/w, I got a pop-up saying "The download was unable to complete"
> > > > >Maybe I am imagining it but I seem to be encountering more of these sentences. Another example I recently got in an email "The package was not able to be delivered".
> > > > >
> > > > >Somehow I just find these sentences to be, for want of a better word, "awkward".
> > > > >
> > > > >In the second example it would have sounded better to say "We could not deliver the package"- the "we" being, UPS in this case.
> > > > >But replacing the first one with "We could not complete the download" does raise the question who the "we" is. Is it my PC? Is it the ISP? Is it the site from which I was attempting to download the s/w?
> > > > >
> > > > >I know, I know, it's just a minor thing and the message is clear. But when you have gone through a lifetime of writing avoiding the passive voice as much as possible, a sentence like that does jar, doesn't it?
> > > >
> > > > Your message has been received.
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> > > > Tony Cooper - Orlando, Florida
> > >
> > > Does this mean passive voice is always past tense/
> > This is being thought about!
> I'm easily confused by good grammar, I mean good grammar easily confuses me, so I found this particular object lesson helped the most:
This grammar lesson that I posted above on passive / active voice is better than I originally thought for it actually answered the question I begged on when and why passive is preferable.
But OTH the two topic sentences on active and passive were not particularly parallel in construction, and the missing passive parallel construction necessarily has to make a reader work harder to understand it, and I just hate that. So can you help me out and take a stab at making them parallel and save me the embarrassment and effort if I fail?
So if the topic sentence and example for the active voice was "In most English sentences with an action verb, the subject performs the action denoted by the verb" as in "The man must have eaten five hamburgers" —— so, therefore, the parallel construction for the passive voice, in this case, would be what exactly?
Particularly if it started with "In most English sentences with ... as in "Five hamburgers must have been eaten by the man"
BTW they sorta give themselves an excuse for not being parallel in construction when they say "Because passive voice sentences necessarily add words and change the normal doer-action-receiver of action direction, they often may make the reader work harder to understand the intended meaning —— but i still think they should have tried no? So not to be pedantic, what say you and start with "In most English sentences...? :-))