b***@gmail.com
2018-03-18 18:16:51 UTC
and how do you get rid of one when you get One?
Discussion:
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Athel Cornish-Bowden
2018-03-18 18:39:55 UTC
and how do we get rid of posters who refuse to put the whole question
in their posts?
in their posts?
--
athel
athel
Peter Young
2018-03-18 18:25:36 UTC
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cowlick
You could have done that!
Peter.
You could have done that!
Peter.
--
Peter Young, (BrE, RP), Consultant Anaesthetist, 1975-2004.
(US equivalent: Certified Anesthesiologist) (AUE Pt)
Cheltenham and Gloucester, UK. Now happily retired.
http://pnyoung.orpheusweb.co.uk
Peter Young, (BrE, RP), Consultant Anaesthetist, 1975-2004.
(US equivalent: Certified Anesthesiologist) (AUE Pt)
Cheltenham and Gloucester, UK. Now happily retired.
http://pnyoung.orpheusweb.co.uk
b***@shaw.ca
2018-03-18 18:48:52 UTC
A cow lick is what we imagine your hair would look like if a cow
had run its slimy tongue over your head, i.e. licked it.
In practice it is usually one or more tufts of hair that resist being combed
in the same direction as the rest of your hair.
You can keep trying to train it with repeated combing or brushing,
or use hair oil on it, or cut it short. If a cow actually licked your hair,
I think you're going to have to wash it.
bill
had run its slimy tongue over your head, i.e. licked it.
In practice it is usually one or more tufts of hair that resist being combed
in the same direction as the rest of your hair.
You can keep trying to train it with repeated combing or brushing,
or use hair oil on it, or cut it short. If a cow actually licked your hair,
I think you're going to have to wash it.
bill
Athel Cornish-Bowden
2018-03-18 19:10:36 UTC
Post by b***@shaw.ca
A cow lick is what we imagine your hair would look like if a cow
had run its slimy tongue over your head, i.e. licked it.
In practice it is usually one or more tufts of hair that resist being combed
in the same direction as the rest of your hair.
You can keep trying to train it with repeated combing or brushing,
or use hair oil on it, or cut it short. If a cow actually licked your hair,
I think you're going to have to wash it.
I can't easily imagine that any self-respecting cow would want to do that.A cow lick is what we imagine your hair would look like if a cow
had run its slimy tongue over your head, i.e. licked it.
In practice it is usually one or more tufts of hair that resist being combed
in the same direction as the rest of your hair.
You can keep trying to train it with repeated combing or brushing,
or use hair oil on it, or cut it short. If a cow actually licked your hair,
I think you're going to have to wash it.
--
athel
athel
b***@shaw.ca
2018-03-19 02:42:56 UTC
Post by Athel Cornish-Bowden
Cows licking various creatures, including humans, in this slide show:Post by b***@shaw.ca
A cow lick is what we imagine your hair would look like if a cow
had run its slimy tongue over your head, i.e. licked it.
In practice it is usually one or more tufts of hair that resist being combed
in the same direction as the rest of your hair.
You can keep trying to train it with repeated combing or brushing,
or use hair oil on it, or cut it short. If a cow actually licked your hair,
I think you're going to have to wash it.
I can't easily imagine that any self-respecting cow would want to do that.A cow lick is what we imagine your hair would look like if a cow
had run its slimy tongue over your head, i.e. licked it.
In practice it is usually one or more tufts of hair that resist being combed
in the same direction as the rest of your hair.
You can keep trying to train it with repeated combing or brushing,
or use hair oil on it, or cut it short. If a cow actually licked your hair,
I think you're going to have to wash it.
https://tinyurl.com/y8a29uj9
bill
Peter T. Daniels
2018-03-18 22:34:41 UTC
Post by b***@shaw.ca
A cow lick is what we imagine your hair would look like if a cow
had run its slimy tongue over your head, i.e. licked it.
Are cows' tongues slimy?A cow lick is what we imagine your hair would look like if a cow
had run its slimy tongue over your head, i.e. licked it.
Post by b***@shaw.ca
In practice it is usually one or more tufts of hair that resist being combed
in the same direction as the rest of your hair.
You can keep trying to train it with repeated combing or brushing,
or use hair oil on it, or cut it short. If a cow actually licked your hair,
I think you're going to have to wash it.
In practice it is usually one or more tufts of hair that resist being combed
in the same direction as the rest of your hair.
You can keep trying to train it with repeated combing or brushing,
or use hair oil on it, or cut it short. If a cow actually licked your hair,
I think you're going to have to wash it.
b***@shaw.ca
2018-03-19 02:42:16 UTC
Post by Peter T. Daniels
I can't be sure, never having been licked by one. But they tend toPost by b***@shaw.ca
A cow lick is what we imagine your hair would look like if a cow
had run its slimy tongue over your head, i.e. licked it.
Are cows' tongues slimy?A cow lick is what we imagine your hair would look like if a cow
had run its slimy tongue over your head, i.e. licked it.
have slimy-looking drool trails.
bill
Athel Cornish-Bowden
2018-03-19 10:01:24 UTC
Post by Peter T. Daniels
I wondered that.Post by b***@shaw.ca
A cow lick is what we imagine your hair would look like if a cow
had run its slimy tongue over your head, i.e. licked it.
Are cows' tongues slimy?A cow lick is what we imagine your hair would look like if a cow
had run its slimy tongue over your head, i.e. licked it.
Post by Peter T. Daniels
Post by b***@shaw.ca
In practice it is usually one or more tufts of hair that resist being combed
in the same direction as the rest of your hair.
You can keep trying to train it with repeated combing or brushing,
or use hair oil on it, or cut it short. If a cow actually licked your hair,
I think you're going to have to wash it.
In practice it is usually one or more tufts of hair that resist being combed
in the same direction as the rest of your hair.
You can keep trying to train it with repeated combing or brushing,
or use hair oil on it, or cut it short. If a cow actually licked your hair,
I think you're going to have to wash it.
--
athel
athel
Peter T. Daniels
2018-03-20 14:21:41 UTC
Post by Athel Cornish-Bowden
Y'know, how a lot of people don't want to touch a snake because they thinkPost by Peter T. Daniels
I wondered that.Post by b***@shaw.ca
A cow lick is what we imagine your hair would look like if a cow
had run its slimy tongue over your head, i.e. licked it.
Are cows' tongues slimy?A cow lick is what we imagine your hair would look like if a cow
had run its slimy tongue over your head, i.e. licked it.
it's slimy. But it's not. A live snake's body feels like, well, snakeskin!
It's dry, and not warm, and it can tickle when it curls around your arm. If
it weren't for the live-mouse thing, a snake family would be nice pets.
Post by Athel Cornish-Bowden
Post by Peter T. Daniels
Post by b***@shaw.ca
In practice it is usually one or more tufts of hair that resist being combed
in the same direction as the rest of your hair.
You can keep trying to train it with repeated combing or brushing,
or use hair oil on it, or cut it short. If a cow actually licked your hair,
I think you're going to have to wash it.
In practice it is usually one or more tufts of hair that resist being combed
in the same direction as the rest of your hair.
You can keep trying to train it with repeated combing or brushing,
or use hair oil on it, or cut it short. If a cow actually licked your hair,
I think you're going to have to wash it.
Madrigal Gurneyhalt
2018-03-20 15:50:31 UTC
Post by Peter T. Daniels
it's slimy. But it's not. A live snake's body feels like, well, snakeskin!
It's dry, and not warm, and it can tickle when it curls around your arm. If
it weren't for the live-mouse thing, a snake family would be nice pets.
It's not necessary to feed them live mice. Indeed many snakePost by Athel Cornish-Bowden
Y'know, how a lot of people don't want to touch a snake because they thinkPost by Peter T. Daniels
I wondered that.Post by b***@shaw.ca
A cow lick is what we imagine your hair would look like if a cow
had run its slimy tongue over your head, i.e. licked it.
Are cows' tongues slimy?A cow lick is what we imagine your hair would look like if a cow
had run its slimy tongue over your head, i.e. licked it.
it's slimy. But it's not. A live snake's body feels like, well, snakeskin!
It's dry, and not warm, and it can tickle when it curls around your arm. If
it weren't for the live-mouse thing, a snake family would be nice pets.
keepers specifically instruct you never to do so.
Tony Cooper
2018-03-20 16:33:35 UTC
On Tue, 20 Mar 2018 08:50:31 -0700 (PDT), Madrigal Gurneyhalt
Post by Madrigal Gurneyhalt
keepers specifically instruct you never to do so.
Grandson has a Ball Python, and the recommenced diet is mice.Post by Peter T. Daniels
it's slimy. But it's not. A live snake's body feels like, well, snakeskin!
It's dry, and not warm, and it can tickle when it curls around your arm. If
it weren't for the live-mouse thing, a snake family would be nice pets.
It's not necessary to feed them live mice. Indeed many snakePost by Athel Cornish-Bowden
Y'know, how a lot of people don't want to touch a snake because they thinkPost by Peter T. Daniels
I wondered that.Post by b***@shaw.ca
A cow lick is what we imagine your hair would look like if a cow
had run its slimy tongue over your head, i.e. licked it.
Are cows' tongues slimy?A cow lick is what we imagine your hair would look like if a cow
had run its slimy tongue over your head, i.e. licked it.
it's slimy. But it's not. A live snake's body feels like, well, snakeskin!
It's dry, and not warm, and it can tickle when it curls around your arm. If
it weren't for the live-mouse thing, a snake family would be nice pets.
keepers specifically instruct you never to do so.
--
Tony Cooper - Orlando, Florida
Tony Cooper - Orlando, Florida
Madrigal Gurneyhalt
2018-03-20 16:41:23 UTC
Post by Tony Cooper
On Tue, 20 Mar 2018 08:50:31 -0700 (PDT), Madrigal Gurneyhalt
--
I'm sure it is. They don't have to be live though!On Tue, 20 Mar 2018 08:50:31 -0700 (PDT), Madrigal Gurneyhalt
Post by Madrigal Gurneyhalt
keepers specifically instruct you never to do so.
Grandson has a Ball Python, and the recommenced diet is mice.Post by Peter T. Daniels
it's slimy. But it's not. A live snake's body feels like, well, snakeskin!
It's dry, and not warm, and it can tickle when it curls around your arm. If
it weren't for the live-mouse thing, a snake family would be nice pets.
It's not necessary to feed them live mice. Indeed many snakePost by Athel Cornish-Bowden
Y'know, how a lot of people don't want to touch a snake because they thinkPost by Peter T. Daniels
I wondered that.Post by b***@shaw.ca
A cow lick is what we imagine your hair would look like if a cow
had run its slimy tongue over your head, i.e. licked it.
Are cows' tongues slimy?A cow lick is what we imagine your hair would look like if a cow
had run its slimy tongue over your head, i.e. licked it.
it's slimy. But it's not. A live snake's body feels like, well, snakeskin!
It's dry, and not warm, and it can tickle when it curls around your arm. If
it weren't for the live-mouse thing, a snake family would be nice pets.
keepers specifically instruct you never to do so.
--
Tony Cooper
2018-03-20 18:29:05 UTC
On Tue, 20 Mar 2018 09:41:23 -0700 (PDT), Madrigal Gurneyhalt
lives.
I don't think you can buy dead mice. The pet store sells live ones.
Pre-killing the mice before feeding the snake would not be something
grandson would relish.
Post by Madrigal Gurneyhalt
The mice are alive when placed in the aquarium in which the pythonPost by Tony Cooper
On Tue, 20 Mar 2018 08:50:31 -0700 (PDT), Madrigal Gurneyhalt
--
I'm sure it is. They don't have to be live though!On Tue, 20 Mar 2018 08:50:31 -0700 (PDT), Madrigal Gurneyhalt
Post by Madrigal Gurneyhalt
keepers specifically instruct you never to do so.
Grandson has a Ball Python, and the recommenced diet is mice.Post by Peter T. Daniels
it's slimy. But it's not. A live snake's body feels like, well, snakeskin!
It's dry, and not warm, and it can tickle when it curls around your arm. If
it weren't for the live-mouse thing, a snake family would be nice pets.
It's not necessary to feed them live mice. Indeed many snakePost by Athel Cornish-Bowden
Y'know, how a lot of people don't want to touch a snake because they thinkPost by Peter T. Daniels
I wondered that.Post by b***@shaw.ca
A cow lick is what we imagine your hair would look like if a cow
had run its slimy tongue over your head, i.e. licked it.
Are cows' tongues slimy?A cow lick is what we imagine your hair would look like if a cow
had run its slimy tongue over your head, i.e. licked it.
it's slimy. But it's not. A live snake's body feels like, well, snakeskin!
It's dry, and not warm, and it can tickle when it curls around your arm. If
it weren't for the live-mouse thing, a snake family would be nice pets.
keepers specifically instruct you never to do so.
--
lives.
I don't think you can buy dead mice. The pet store sells live ones.
Pre-killing the mice before feeding the snake would not be something
grandson would relish.
--
Tony Cooper - Orlando, Florida
Tony Cooper - Orlando, Florida
Richard Tobin
2018-03-20 18:55:08 UTC
Post by Tony Cooper
lives.
I don't think you can buy dead mice. The pet store sells live ones.
Pre-killing the mice before feeding the snake would not be something
grandson would relish.
Here they sell frozen ones.Post by Madrigal Gurneyhalt
The mice are alive when placed in the aquarium in which the pythonPost by Tony Cooper
I'm sure it is. They don't have to be live though!Post by Madrigal Gurneyhalt
It's not necessary to feed them live mice. Indeed many snake
keepers specifically instruct you never to do so.
Grandson has a Ball Python, and the recommenced diet is mice.It's not necessary to feed them live mice. Indeed many snake
keepers specifically instruct you never to do so.
lives.
I don't think you can buy dead mice. The pet store sells live ones.
Pre-killing the mice before feeding the snake would not be something
grandson would relish.
Extra large frozen rat:
http://www.petsathome.com/shop/en/pets/reptile/reptile-food/frozen-reptile-food/monkfield-frozen-extra-large-individual-rat-%28buy-in-store-only%29
-- Richard
Tak To
2018-03-21 15:37:08 UTC
Post by Richard Tobin
[...]
I don't know much about pythons or snakes in general, butPost by Tony Cooper
lives.
I don't think you can buy dead mice. The pet store sells live ones.
Pre-killing the mice before feeding the snake would not be something
grandson would relish.
Here they sell frozen ones.Post by Madrigal Gurneyhalt
The mice are alive when placed in the aquarium in which the pythonPost by Tony Cooper
I'm sure it is. They don't have to be live though!Post by Madrigal Gurneyhalt
It's not necessary to feed them live mice. Indeed many snake
keepers specifically instruct you never to do so.
Grandson has a Ball Python, and the recommenced diet is mice.It's not necessary to feed them live mice. Indeed many snake
keepers specifically instruct you never to do so.
lives.
I don't think you can buy dead mice. The pet store sells live ones.
Pre-killing the mice before feeding the snake would not be something
grandson would relish.
[...]
many (kept) animals by their nature do not eat what they did
not kill. I have heard of owls, octopuses, chameleons, etc
being in that category.
I had a apartment-mate once who had a large tank of turtles
(I do not know what type). He bought live gold fish to feed
them. I did not know whether it was necessary but another
apartment-mate found the feeding scene rather distasteful.
--
Tak
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Peter Young
2018-03-20 19:10:42 UTC
Post by Tony Cooper
On Tue, 20 Mar 2018 09:41:23 -0700 (PDT), Madrigal Gurneyhalt
lives.
I don't think you can buy dead mice. The pet store sells live ones.
Pre-killing the mice before feeding the snake would not be something
grandson would relish.
As mentioned upthread over here you can buy frozen mice. See forOn Tue, 20 Mar 2018 09:41:23 -0700 (PDT), Madrigal Gurneyhalt
Post by Madrigal Gurneyhalt
The mice are alive when placed in the aquarium in which the pythonPost by Tony Cooper
On Tue, 20 Mar 2018 08:50:31 -0700 (PDT), Madrigal Gurneyhalt
--
I'm sure it is. They don't have to be live though!On Tue, 20 Mar 2018 08:50:31 -0700 (PDT), Madrigal Gurneyhalt
Post by Madrigal Gurneyhalt
keepers specifically instruct you never to do so.
Grandson has a Ball Python, and the recommenced diet is mice.Post by Peter T. Daniels
it's slimy. But it's not. A live snake's body feels like, well, snakeskin!
It's dry, and not warm, and it can tickle when it curls around your arm. If
it weren't for the live-mouse thing, a snake family would be nice pets.
It's not necessary to feed them live mice. Indeed many snakePost by Athel Cornish-Bowden
Y'know, how a lot of people don't want to touch a snake because they thinkPost by Peter T. Daniels
I wondered that.Post by b***@shaw.ca
A cow lick is what we imagine your hair would look like if a cow
had run its slimy tongue over your head, i.e. licked it.
Are cows' tongues slimy?A cow lick is what we imagine your hair would look like if a cow
had run its slimy tongue over your head, i.e. licked it.
it's slimy. But it's not. A live snake's body feels like, well, snakeskin!
It's dry, and not warm, and it can tickle when it curls around your arm. If
it weren't for the live-mouse thing, a snake family would be nice pets.
keepers specifically instruct you never to do so.
--
lives.
I don't think you can buy dead mice. The pet store sells live ones.
Pre-killing the mice before feeding the snake would not be something
grandson would relish.
instance https://www.frozenrodent.co.uk/frozen-mice-2-c.asp
Peter.
--
Peter Young, (BrE, RP), Consultant Anaesthetist, 1975-2004.
(US equivalent: Certified Anesthesiologist) (AUE Pt)
Cheltenham and Gloucester, UK. Now happily retired.
http://pnyoung.orpheusweb.co.uk
Peter Young, (BrE, RP), Consultant Anaesthetist, 1975-2004.
(US equivalent: Certified Anesthesiologist) (AUE Pt)
Cheltenham and Gloucester, UK. Now happily retired.
http://pnyoung.orpheusweb.co.uk
Tony Cooper
2018-03-20 19:55:56 UTC
Post by Peter Young
instance https://www.frozenrodent.co.uk/frozen-mice-2-c.asp
Peter.
Ugh. Bad enough that he puts a live mouse in the aquarium, butPost by Tony Cooper
On Tue, 20 Mar 2018 09:41:23 -0700 (PDT), Madrigal Gurneyhalt
lives.
I don't think you can buy dead mice. The pet store sells live ones.
Pre-killing the mice before feeding the snake would not be something
grandson would relish.
As mentioned upthread over here you can buy frozen mice. See forOn Tue, 20 Mar 2018 09:41:23 -0700 (PDT), Madrigal Gurneyhalt
Post by Madrigal Gurneyhalt
The mice are alive when placed in the aquarium in which the pythonPost by Tony Cooper
On Tue, 20 Mar 2018 08:50:31 -0700 (PDT), Madrigal Gurneyhalt
--
I'm sure it is. They don't have to be live though!On Tue, 20 Mar 2018 08:50:31 -0700 (PDT), Madrigal Gurneyhalt
Post by Madrigal Gurneyhalt
keepers specifically instruct you never to do so.
Grandson has a Ball Python, and the recommenced diet is mice.Post by Peter T. Daniels
it's slimy. But it's not. A live snake's body feels like, well, snakeskin!
It's dry, and not warm, and it can tickle when it curls around your arm. If
it weren't for the live-mouse thing, a snake family would be nice pets.
It's not necessary to feed them live mice. Indeed many snakePost by Athel Cornish-Bowden
Y'know, how a lot of people don't want to touch a snake because they thinkPost by Peter T. Daniels
I wondered that.Post by b***@shaw.ca
A cow lick is what we imagine your hair would look like if a cow
had run its slimy tongue over your head, i.e. licked it.
Are cows' tongues slimy?A cow lick is what we imagine your hair would look like if a cow
had run its slimy tongue over your head, i.e. licked it.
it's slimy. But it's not. A live snake's body feels like, well, snakeskin!
It's dry, and not warm, and it can tickle when it curls around your arm. If
it weren't for the live-mouse thing, a snake family would be nice pets.
keepers specifically instruct you never to do so.
--
lives.
I don't think you can buy dead mice. The pet store sells live ones.
Pre-killing the mice before feeding the snake would not be something
grandson would relish.
instance https://www.frozenrodent.co.uk/frozen-mice-2-c.asp
Peter.
handling a frozen mouse would be worse. Besides, his aquarium is not
equipped with a microwave to warm up the mouse for dinner.
What's with the snake fascination that young teens have? The creature
is not a welcome guest in grandson's mother's eye.
--
Tony Cooper - Orlando, Florida
Tony Cooper - Orlando, Florida
Peter Young
2018-03-20 20:52:55 UTC
Post by Tony Cooper
handling a frozen mouse would be worse. Besides, his aquarium is not
equipped with a microwave to warm up the mouse for dinner.
As I understand what my colleague's sons used to to, the mice werePost by Peter Young
instance https://www.frozenrodent.co.uk/frozen-mice-2-c.asp
Peter.
Ugh. Bad enough that he puts a live mouse in the aquarium, butPost by Tony Cooper
On Tue, 20 Mar 2018 09:41:23 -0700 (PDT), Madrigal Gurneyhalt
lives.
I don't think you can buy dead mice. The pet store sells live ones.
Pre-killing the mice before feeding the snake would not be something
grandson would relish.
As mentioned upthread over here you can buy frozen mice. See forOn Tue, 20 Mar 2018 09:41:23 -0700 (PDT), Madrigal Gurneyhalt
Post by Madrigal Gurneyhalt
The mice are alive when placed in the aquarium in which the pythonPost by Tony Cooper
On Tue, 20 Mar 2018 08:50:31 -0700 (PDT), Madrigal Gurneyhalt
--
I'm sure it is. They don't have to be live though!On Tue, 20 Mar 2018 08:50:31 -0700 (PDT), Madrigal Gurneyhalt
Post by Madrigal Gurneyhalt
keepers specifically instruct you never to do so.
Grandson has a Ball Python, and the recommenced diet is mice.Post by Peter T. Daniels
it's slimy. But it's not. A live snake's body feels like, well, snakeskin!
It's dry, and not warm, and it can tickle when it curls around your arm. If
it weren't for the live-mouse thing, a snake family would be nice pets.
It's not necessary to feed them live mice. Indeed many snakePost by Athel Cornish-Bowden
Y'know, how a lot of people don't want to touch a snake because they thinkPost by Peter T. Daniels
I wondered that.Post by b***@shaw.ca
A cow lick is what we imagine your hair would look like if a cow
had run its slimy tongue over your head, i.e. licked it.
Are cows' tongues slimy?A cow lick is what we imagine your hair would look like if a cow
had run its slimy tongue over your head, i.e. licked it.
it's slimy. But it's not. A live snake's body feels like, well, snakeskin!
It's dry, and not warm, and it can tickle when it curls around your arm. If
it weren't for the live-mouse thing, a snake family would be nice pets.
keepers specifically instruct you never to do so.
--
lives.
I don't think you can buy dead mice. The pet store sells live ones.
Pre-killing the mice before feeding the snake would not be something
grandson would relish.
instance https://www.frozenrodent.co.uk/frozen-mice-2-c.asp
Peter.
handling a frozen mouse would be worse. Besides, his aquarium is not
equipped with a microwave to warm up the mouse for dinner.
thawed before they were given to the snake. The snake, however, took
care to constrict them before swallowing them
.
Post by Tony Cooper
What's with the snake fascination that young teens have? The creature
is not a welcome guest in grandson's mother's eye.
I wonder that too.What's with the snake fascination that young teens have? The creature
is not a welcome guest in grandson's mother's eye.
Peter.
--
Peter Young, (BrE, RP), Consultant Anaesthetist, 1975-2004.
(US equivalent: Certified Anesthesiologist) (AUE Pt)
Cheltenham and Gloucester, UK. Now happily retired.
http://pnyoung.orpheusweb.co.uk
Peter Young, (BrE, RP), Consultant Anaesthetist, 1975-2004.
(US equivalent: Certified Anesthesiologist) (AUE Pt)
Cheltenham and Gloucester, UK. Now happily retired.
http://pnyoung.orpheusweb.co.uk
musika
2018-03-20 23:53:24 UTC
Post by Tony Cooper
What's with the snake fascination that young teens have? The creature
is not a welcome guest in grandson's mother's eye.
Well, snake-eyes is not usually welcome.What's with the snake fascination that young teens have? The creature
is not a welcome guest in grandson's mother's eye.
--
Ray
UK
Ray
UK
Tak To
2018-03-21 15:20:48 UTC
Post by Tony Cooper
handling a frozen mouse would be worse. Besides, his aquarium is not
equipped with a microwave to warm up the mouse for dinner.
What's with the snake fascination that young teens have? The creature
is not a welcome guest in grandson's mother's eye.
I was never particularly fascinated by snakes[1], nor was IPost by Peter Young
instance https://www.frozenrodent.co.uk/frozen-mice-2-c.asp
Ugh. Bad enough that he puts a live mouse in the aquarium, butPost by Tony Cooper
On Tue, 20 Mar 2018 09:41:23 -0700 (PDT), Madrigal Gurneyhalt
lives.
I don't think you can buy dead mice. The pet store sells live ones.
Pre-killing the mice before feeding the snake would not be something
grandson would relish.
As mentioned upthread over here you can buy frozen mice. See forOn Tue, 20 Mar 2018 09:41:23 -0700 (PDT), Madrigal Gurneyhalt
Post by Madrigal Gurneyhalt
The mice are alive when placed in the aquarium in which the pythonPost by Tony Cooper
On Tue, 20 Mar 2018 08:50:31 -0700 (PDT), Madrigal Gurneyhalt
--
I'm sure it is. They don't have to be live though!On Tue, 20 Mar 2018 08:50:31 -0700 (PDT), Madrigal Gurneyhalt
Post by Madrigal Gurneyhalt
keepers specifically instruct you never to do so.
Grandson has a Ball Python, and the recommenced diet is mice.Post by Peter T. Daniels
it's slimy. But it's not. A live snake's body feels like, well, snakeskin!
It's dry, and not warm, and it can tickle when it curls around your arm. If
it weren't for the live-mouse thing, a snake family would be nice pets.
It's not necessary to feed them live mice. Indeed many snakePost by Athel Cornish-Bowden
Y'know, how a lot of people don't want to touch a snake because they thinkPost by Peter T. Daniels
I wondered that.Post by b***@shaw.ca
A cow lick is what we imagine your hair would look like if a cow
had run its slimy tongue over your head, i.e. licked it.
Are cows' tongues slimy?A cow lick is what we imagine your hair would look like if a cow
had run its slimy tongue over your head, i.e. licked it.
it's slimy. But it's not. A live snake's body feels like, well, snakeskin!
It's dry, and not warm, and it can tickle when it curls around your arm. If
it weren't for the live-mouse thing, a snake family would be nice pets.
keepers specifically instruct you never to do so.
--
lives.
I don't think you can buy dead mice. The pet store sells live ones.
Pre-killing the mice before feeding the snake would not be something
grandson would relish.
instance https://www.frozenrodent.co.uk/frozen-mice-2-c.asp
handling a frozen mouse would be worse. Besides, his aquarium is not
equipped with a microwave to warm up the mouse for dinner.
What's with the snake fascination that young teens have? The creature
is not a welcome guest in grandson's mother's eye.
ever repulsed by them. However, I think some people, esp.
women, were conditioned to be or act squirmish about them.
[1] As opposed to, say, frogs
A woman that I know rather well recounted that one time
when she was a toddler she picked up a spider from the
floor to study it. The adults around her were horrified but
for her it was just another interesting crawly thing. OTOH
at another time she was so repulsed by the a clump cotton
that came out of her pillow that she cried. (I am sure her
memory has been colored by the many times the stories have
been retold by her parents.)
Here is another interesting bit. When she was older she
moved to a new city with a slightly different culture. She
found that the young women of her age in the new place were
squirmish about a lot more things than her previous peer
group, and that it was best to keep her neutrality with
spiders to herself in order to fit in.
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David Kleinecke
2018-03-21 17:57:12 UTC
Post by Tak To
I was never particularly fascinated by snakes[1], nor was I
ever repulsed by them. However, I think some people, esp.
women, were conditioned to be or act squirmish about them.
[1] As opposed to, say, frogs
A woman that I know rather well recounted that one time
when she was a toddler she picked up a spider from the
floor to study it. The adults around her were horrified but
for her it was just another interesting crawly thing. OTOH
at another time she was so repulsed by the a clump cotton
that came out of her pillow that she cried. (I am sure her
memory has been colored by the many times the stories have
been retold by her parents.)
Here is another interesting bit. When she was older she
moved to a new city with a slightly different culture. She
found that the young women of her age in the new place were
squirmish about a lot more things than her previous peer
group, and that it was best to keep her neutrality with
spiders to herself in order to fit in.
I am considered dangerously unsqueamish by most people.I was never particularly fascinated by snakes[1], nor was I
ever repulsed by them. However, I think some people, esp.
women, were conditioned to be or act squirmish about them.
[1] As opposed to, say, frogs
A woman that I know rather well recounted that one time
when she was a toddler she picked up a spider from the
floor to study it. The adults around her were horrified but
for her it was just another interesting crawly thing. OTOH
at another time she was so repulsed by the a clump cotton
that came out of her pillow that she cried. (I am sure her
memory has been colored by the many times the stories have
been retold by her parents.)
Here is another interesting bit. When she was older she
moved to a new city with a slightly different culture. She
found that the young women of her age in the new place were
squirmish about a lot more things than her previous peer
group, and that it was best to keep her neutrality with
spiders to herself in order to fit in.
Having literally shoveled chickenshit for a while in my
youth makes one that way.
John Varela
2018-03-21 18:48:29 UTC
On Wed, 21 Mar 2018 15:20:48 UTC, Tak To <***@alum.mit.eduxx>
wrote:
<snip>
snakes might originate in, depending on your belief system,
inheritance from the Garden of Eden or from our arboreal ancesters
whose females had to defend their infants from tree snakes.
Getting even further off-topic: What is it with snakes that climb
trees? How can they do that? Getting back on topic: Sheep can't do
that and they have four limbs.
wrote:
<snip>
Post by Tak To
I was never particularly fascinated by snakes[1], nor was I
ever repulsed by them. However, I think some people, esp.
women, were conditioned to be or act squirmish about them.
That's common belief, if not actual knowledge. Women's thing aboutI was never particularly fascinated by snakes[1], nor was I
ever repulsed by them. However, I think some people, esp.
women, were conditioned to be or act squirmish about them.
snakes might originate in, depending on your belief system,
inheritance from the Garden of Eden or from our arboreal ancesters
whose females had to defend their infants from tree snakes.
Getting even further off-topic: What is it with snakes that climb
trees? How can they do that? Getting back on topic: Sheep can't do
that and they have four limbs.
--
John Varela
John Varela
Quinn C
2018-03-21 21:53:46 UTC
Post by John Varela
<snip>
snakes might originate in, depending on your belief system,
inheritance from the Garden of Eden or from our arboreal ancesters
whose females had to defend their infants from tree snakes.
I have never even heard this story told in a gendered way, as opposed<snip>
Post by Tak To
I was never particularly fascinated by snakes[1], nor was I
ever repulsed by them. However, I think some people, esp.
women, were conditioned to be or act squirmish about them.
That's common belief, if not actual knowledge. Women's thing aboutI was never particularly fascinated by snakes[1], nor was I
ever repulsed by them. However, I think some people, esp.
women, were conditioned to be or act squirmish about them.
snakes might originate in, depending on your belief system,
inheritance from the Garden of Eden or from our arboreal ancesters
whose females had to defend their infants from tree snakes.
to stories about mice and spiders. Some reputable scholars believe that
a fear of snakes is inborn in primates, across species and genders.
Personally, snakes don't bother me more than other animals of similar
size as long as I have no reason to suspect poison. My aversion to
spiders (above a certain, rather small size) seems much harder to
manage rationally, so it feels more "instinctive".
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-- Findlay (OH) Jeffersonian (1875)
Certain writers assert very decidedly that no pronouns are
needed beyond those we already possess, but this is simply a
dogmatic opinion, unsupported by the facts.
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musika
2018-03-21 22:22:51 UTC
Post by Quinn C
Personally, snakes don't bother me more than other animals of similar
size as long as I have no reason to suspect poison.
ObAUE: I think you mean "venom".Personally, snakes don't bother me more than other animals of similar
size as long as I have no reason to suspect poison.
--
Ray
UK
Ray
UK
Peter Moylan
2018-03-22 02:36:02 UTC
Post by musika
They bother me, but that's because the snakes around here can bePost by Quinn C
Personally, snakes don't bother me more than other animals of
similar size as long as I have no reason to suspect poison.
ObAUE: I think you mean "venom".Personally, snakes don't bother me more than other animals of
similar size as long as I have no reason to suspect poison.
dangerous, especially the aggressive ones. I don't think I've ever seen
a non-venomous snake in this country.
I just googled "non-venomous snakes in Australia", to see whether there
were any in this part of the country. In response, Google showed me
pictures of the most venomous ones.
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Newcastle, NSW, Australia
Peter Moylan http://www.pmoylan.org
Newcastle, NSW, Australia
Mark Brader
2018-03-22 03:29:31 UTC
I don't think I've ever seen a non-venomous snake in this country.
I just googled "non-venomous snakes in Australia", to see whether there
were any in this part of the country. In response, Google showed me
pictures of the most venomous ones.
(Paging Bill Bryson!)I just googled "non-venomous snakes in Australia", to see whether there
were any in this part of the country. In response, Google showed me
pictures of the most venomous ones.
I tried "List of snakes in Australia" and it took me to a site that
includes these pages:
http://www.whatsnakeisthat.com.au/category/family/pythons/
http://www.whatsnakeisthat.com.au/category/family/solid-toothed-rear-fanged/
which list a total of 20 non-venomous snakes (and one venomous one).
Hope this helps.
There's only one kind of venomous snake here in Southern Ontario --
a type of rattlesnake -- and it's so rare (or my memory is so poor)
that I've not only never seen one, I can't remember when I last heard
of one being seen.
--
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Toronto | that Mother Nature is our friend. Wrong; dead wrong.
***@vex.net | She doesn't care whether we live or die,
| and she loves surprises." -- Henry Spencer
My text in this article is in the public domain.
Mark Brader | "There is a pervasive illusion in certain quarters
Toronto | that Mother Nature is our friend. Wrong; dead wrong.
***@vex.net | She doesn't care whether we live or die,
| and she loves surprises." -- Henry Spencer
My text in this article is in the public domain.
Peter Moylan
2018-03-22 04:33:34 UTC
Post by Mark Brader
I tried "List of snakes in Australia" and it took me to a site that
http://www.whatsnakeisthat.com.au/category/family/pythons/
http://www.whatsnakeisthat.com.au/category/family/solid-toothed-rear-fanged/
which list a total of 20 non-venomous snakes (and one venomous
one). Hope this helps.
Thanks. Those are mostly tropical snakes, so not seen in my area. TheI don't think I've ever seen a non-venomous snake in this country.
I just googled "non-venomous snakes in Australia", to see whether
there were any in this part of the country. In response, Google
showed me pictures of the most venomous ones.
(Paging Bill Bryson!)I just googled "non-venomous snakes in Australia", to see whether
there were any in this part of the country. In response, Google
showed me pictures of the most venomous ones.
I tried "List of snakes in Australia" and it took me to a site that
http://www.whatsnakeisthat.com.au/category/family/pythons/
http://www.whatsnakeisthat.com.au/category/family/solid-toothed-rear-fanged/
which list a total of 20 non-venomous snakes (and one venomous
one). Hope this helps.
only time I hear of a python in this region is when it's an escaped pet.
Post by Mark Brader
There's only one kind of venomous snake here in Southern Ontario -- a
type of rattlesnake -- and it's so rare (or my memory is so poor)
that I've not only never seen one, I can't remember when I last
heard of one being seen.
There's only one kind of venomous snake here in Southern Ontario -- a
type of rattlesnake -- and it's so rare (or my memory is so poor)
that I've not only never seen one, I can't remember when I last
heard of one being seen.
--
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Newcastle, NSW, Australia
Peter Moylan http://www.pmoylan.org
Newcastle, NSW, Australia
RH Draney
2018-03-22 13:09:48 UTC
Post by Mark Brader
There's only one kind of venomous snake here in Southern Ontario --
a type of rattlesnake -- and it's so rare (or my memory is so poor)
that I've not only never seen one, I can't remember when I last heard
of one being seen.
From Google:There's only one kind of venomous snake here in Southern Ontario --
a type of rattlesnake -- and it's so rare (or my memory is so poor)
that I've not only never seen one, I can't remember when I last heard
of one being seen.
"There are 13 species of rattlesnakes in Arizona. Venom toxicity varies
among the species."
The most useful thing to know about rattlesnakes is that roadrunners
kill and eat them...take that, Wile E Coyote!...r
Madrigal Gurneyhalt
2018-03-22 11:23:34 UTC
Post by Peter Moylan
dangerous, especially the aggressive ones. I don't think I've ever seen
a non-venomous snake in this country.
I just googled "non-venomous snakes in Australia", to see whether there
were any in this part of the country. In response, Google showed me
pictures of the most venomous ones.
Snakes are not generally cited as 'non-venomous' so Google can't listPost by musika
They bother me, but that's because the snakes around here can bePost by Quinn C
Personally, snakes don't bother me more than other animals of
similar size as long as I have no reason to suspect poison.
ObAUE: I think you mean "venom".Personally, snakes don't bother me more than other animals of
similar size as long as I have no reason to suspect poison.
dangerous, especially the aggressive ones. I don't think I've ever seen
a non-venomous snake in this country.
I just googled "non-venomous snakes in Australia", to see whether there
were any in this part of the country. In response, Google showed me
pictures of the most venomous ones.
them. Some quick dotting about suggests that there are around 20
snakes common in your part of the world of which three are confirmed
non-venomous, four I can find no detailed information on, and
another three have bites extremely unlikely to do any significant
damage to a human either because of mouth architecture or mildness
of venom.
So that's comforting, isn't it!?
Peter Moylan
2018-03-22 13:00:08 UTC
Post by Madrigal Gurneyhalt
list them. Some quick dotting about suggests that there are around
20 snakes common in your part of the world of which three are
confirmed non-venomous, four I can find no detailed information on,
and another three have bites extremely unlikely to do any
significant damage to a human either because of mouth architecture or
mildness of venom.
So that's comforting, isn't it!?
It depends on what you mean by my part of the world. The non-venomousPost by Peter Moylan
dangerous, especially the aggressive ones. I don't think I've ever
seen a non-venomous snake in this country.
I just googled "non-venomous snakes in Australia", to see whether
there were any in this part of the country. In response, Google
showed me pictures of the most venomous ones.
Snakes are not generally cited as 'non-venomous' so Google can'tPost by musika
They bother me, but that's because the snakes around here can bePost by Quinn C
Personally, snakes don't bother me more than other animals of
similar size as long as I have no reason to suspect poison.
ObAUE: I think you mean "venom".Personally, snakes don't bother me more than other animals of
similar size as long as I have no reason to suspect poison.
dangerous, especially the aggressive ones. I don't think I've ever
seen a non-venomous snake in this country.
I just googled "non-venomous snakes in Australia", to see whether
there were any in this part of the country. In response, Google
showed me pictures of the most venomous ones.
list them. Some quick dotting about suggests that there are around
20 snakes common in your part of the world of which three are
confirmed non-venomous, four I can find no detailed information on,
and another three have bites extremely unlikely to do any
significant damage to a human either because of mouth architecture or
mildness of venom.
So that's comforting, isn't it!?
ones live in parts of Australia that I have rarely or never visited.
I've been in far north Queensland once, and indeed the snakes there are
less scary than the crocodiles.
In my area, though, we seem to have only two kinds of snakes: the
eastern brown snake, and the red-bellied black snake. The red-bellied
blacks are categorised as "a bite from them is only rarely fatal", and
indeed I've accidentally picked one up while weeding the garden without
being hurt. We don't worry much about them, because the antivenine kept
at hospitals works well. The brown snakes are a different matter. You
don't want to meet one of those, because they are both aggressive and
highly venomous.
In the area where I grew up we had mostly tiger snakes and brown snakes.
They are both aggressive and highly toxic. I've managed to avoid them,
apart from almost stepping on a brown snake once on a school excursion.
My brother has been bitten by a tiger snake, but he survived.
--
Peter Moylan http://www.pmoylan.org
Newcastle, NSW, Australia
Peter Moylan http://www.pmoylan.org
Newcastle, NSW, Australia
Quinn C
2018-03-22 16:18:05 UTC
Post by musika
I see. I'll try to remember the difference, but given that German getsPost by Quinn C
Personally, snakes don't bother me more than other animals of similar
size as long as I have no reason to suspect poison.
ObAUE: I think you mean "venom".Personally, snakes don't bother me more than other animals of similar
size as long as I have no reason to suspect poison.
along fine without that distinction, it should not be too surprising if
people mix them up. Even educated native speakers of English - there
are many sites like this one, even searching specifically on .edu:
| ER or Not: Bit By a Non-Poisonous Snake
<https://healthcare.utah.edu/the-scope/shows.php?shows=0_6c29xhf8>
--
Perhaps it might be well, while the subject is under discussion,
to attempt the creation of an entirely new gender, for the purpose
of facilitating reference to the growing caste of manly women and
womanly men. -- Baltimore Sun (1910)
Perhaps it might be well, while the subject is under discussion,
to attempt the creation of an entirely new gender, for the purpose
of facilitating reference to the growing caste of manly women and
womanly men. -- Baltimore Sun (1910)
s***@gmail.com
2018-03-21 22:25:11 UTC
Post by John Varela
Getting even further off-topic: What is it with snakes that climb
trees? How can they do that? Getting back on topic: Sheep can't do
that and they have four limbs.
Sandwich rounds.Getting even further off-topic: What is it with snakes that climb
trees? How can they do that? Getting back on topic: Sheep can't do
that and they have four limbs.
(the sheep have lanolin on all four limbs, too slippery for climbing)
/dps
Madrigal Gurneyhalt
2018-03-21 22:43:04 UTC
Post by s***@gmail.com
(the sheep have lanolin on all four limbs, too slippery for climbing)
Don't stop dem goats ...Post by John Varela
Getting even further off-topic: What is it with snakes that climb
trees? How can they do that? Getting back on topic: Sheep can't do
that and they have four limbs.
Sandwich rounds.Getting even further off-topic: What is it with snakes that climb
trees? How can they do that? Getting back on topic: Sheep can't do
that and they have four limbs.
(the sheep have lanolin on all four limbs, too slippery for climbing)
https://tinyurl.com/goats-on-top
Jerry Friedman
2018-03-21 22:45:37 UTC
On 3/21/18 12:48 PM, John Varela wrote:
...
understand either.
This one's system is easy to understand.
This one shares your confusion.
Not very prehensile, though.
...
Post by John Varela
Getting even further off-topic: What is it with snakes that climb
trees? How can they do that?
This one seems to be doing what they do on the ground, which I don'tGetting even further off-topic: What is it with snakes that climb
trees? How can they do that?
understand either.
This one's system is easy to understand.
This one shares your confusion.
Not very prehensile, though.
--
Jerry Friedman
Jerry Friedman
s***@gmail.com
2018-03-21 23:20:30 UTC
Post by Jerry Friedman
...
understand either.
http://youtu.be/dTzJobmMEi8
Scales have a front and a back....
Post by John Varela
Getting even further off-topic: What is it with snakes that climb
trees? How can they do that?
This one seems to be doing what they do on the ground, which I don'tGetting even further off-topic: What is it with snakes that climb
trees? How can they do that?
understand either.
http://youtu.be/dTzJobmMEi8
That gives a bit of an anchor to push against.
He's still using his scales (as well as spine strength)
to reach his head to the new wrap level.
The tree seems to be smoother, and his scales aren't quite big enough
to dig in deeper. Did better than the sheep, though.
If they put their energy into sandwich rounds instead of lanolin ....
/dps
Sam Plusnet
2018-03-22 00:52:22 UTC
Post by s***@gmail.com
That gives a bit of an anchor to push against.
He's still using his scales (as well as spine strength)
to reach his head to the new wrap level.
The tree seems to be smoother, and his scales aren't quite big enough
to dig in deeper. Did better than the sheep, though.
I wonder how he would manage on an Acer davidii?Post by Jerry Friedman
...
understand either.
http://youtu.be/dTzJobmMEi8
Scales have a front and a back....
Post by John Varela
Getting even further off-topic: What is it with snakes that climb
trees? How can they do that?
This one seems to be doing what they do on the ground, which I don'tGetting even further off-topic: What is it with snakes that climb
trees? How can they do that?
understand either.
http://youtu.be/dTzJobmMEi8
That gives a bit of an anchor to push against.
He's still using his scales (as well as spine strength)
to reach his head to the new wrap level.
The tree seems to be smoother, and his scales aren't quite big enough
to dig in deeper. Did better than the sheep, though.
(Snakebark maple)
--
Sam Plusnet
Sam Plusnet
Kerr-Mudd,John
2018-03-22 10:26:54 UTC
Post by Sam Plusnet
[]Post by s***@gmail.com
...
Post by John Varela
Getting even further off-topic: What is it with snakes that climb
trees? How can they do that?
Getting even further off-topic: What is it with snakes that climb
trees? How can they do that?
Post by Sam Plusnet
Wss that the one with the Pentium bug?Post by s***@gmail.com
The tree seems to be smoother, and his scales aren't quite big enough
to dig in deeper. Did better than the sheep, though.
I wonder how he would manage on an Acer davidii?The tree seems to be smoother, and his scales aren't quite big enough
to dig in deeper. Did better than the sheep, though.
--
Bah, and indeed, Humbug.
Bah, and indeed, Humbug.
Jerry Friedman
2018-03-22 03:11:49 UTC
Post by s***@gmail.com
That gives a bit of an anchor to push against.
...Post by Jerry Friedman
...
understand either.
http://youtu.be/dTzJobmMEi8
Scales have a front and a back....
Post by John Varela
Getting even further off-topic: What is it with snakes that climb
trees? How can they do that?
This one seems to be doing what they do on the ground, which I don'tGetting even further off-topic: What is it with snakes that climb
trees? How can they do that?
understand either.
http://youtu.be/dTzJobmMEi8
That gives a bit of an anchor to push against.
I think that one is doing more what Wikipedia calls undulatory motion
than rectilinear motion. The back edges of the scales may be preventing
it from slipping backwards, but I get the impression the forward motion
comes from pressing the side of its body against projections. For one
thing, rectilinear motion is supposed to be very slow.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Snake#Locomotion
Speaking of snakes on trees, we wouldn't want to overlook these Western
Rat Snakes.
Loading Image...
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Jerry Friedman
Jerry Friedman
Madrigal Gurneyhalt
2018-03-21 23:26:28 UTC
Post by Jerry Friedman
...
understand either.
http://youtu.be/dTzJobmMEi8
It's not that difficult especially on a trunk as rough barked as that one....
Post by John Varela
Getting even further off-topic: What is it with snakes that climb
trees? How can they do that?
This one seems to be doing what they do on the ground, which I don'tGetting even further off-topic: What is it with snakes that climb
trees? How can they do that?
understand either.
http://youtu.be/dTzJobmMEi8
The snake is merely pressing hundreds of pairs of ribs into every
available indentation and lifting itself up on them. It's exactly the same
as a millipede's technique only the 'legs' are under the skin.
Post by Jerry Friedman
This one's system is easy to understand.
http://youtu.be/6tmDGhGacDQ
This one shares your confusion.
http://youtu.be/-aowHonobm8
Not very prehensile, though.
This one's system is easy to understand.
http://youtu.be/6tmDGhGacDQ
This one shares your confusion.
http://youtu.be/-aowHonobm8
Not very prehensile, though.
David Kleinecke
2018-03-21 23:50:55 UTC
Post by Madrigal Gurneyhalt
The snake is merely pressing hundreds of pairs of ribs into every
available indentation and lifting itself up on them. It's exactly the same
as a millipede's technique only the 'legs' are under the skin.
So, given a few more million years of evolution snakes will lookPost by Jerry Friedman
...
understand either.
http://youtu.be/dTzJobmMEi8
It's not that difficult especially on a trunk as rough barked as that one....
Post by John Varela
Getting even further off-topic: What is it with snakes that climb
trees? How can they do that?
This one seems to be doing what they do on the ground, which I don'tGetting even further off-topic: What is it with snakes that climb
trees? How can they do that?
understand either.
http://youtu.be/dTzJobmMEi8
The snake is merely pressing hundreds of pairs of ribs into every
available indentation and lifting itself up on them. It's exactly the same
as a millipede's technique only the 'legs' are under the skin.
like millipedes? Or both? Or neiher?
Madrigal Gurneyhalt
2018-03-22 00:03:19 UTC
Post by David Kleinecke
like millipedes? Or both? Or neiher?
Snakes disposed of real legs over 100 million years ago. I don'tPost by Madrigal Gurneyhalt
The snake is merely pressing hundreds of pairs of ribs into every
available indentation and lifting itself up on them. It's exactly the same
as a millipede's technique only the 'legs' are under the skin.
So, given a few more million years of evolution snakes will lookPost by Jerry Friedman
...
understand either.
http://youtu.be/dTzJobmMEi8
It's not that difficult especially on a trunk as rough barked as that one....
Post by John Varela
Getting even further off-topic: What is it with snakes that climb
trees? How can they do that?
This one seems to be doing what they do on the ground, which I don'tGetting even further off-topic: What is it with snakes that climb
trees? How can they do that?
understand either.
http://youtu.be/dTzJobmMEi8
The snake is merely pressing hundreds of pairs of ribs into every
available indentation and lifting itself up on them. It's exactly the same
as a millipede's technique only the 'legs' are under the skin.
like millipedes? Or both? Or neiher?
think there's any reason for them to go back. It's certainly not
slowed them down ...
Jerry Friedman
2018-03-22 03:13:15 UTC
Post by Madrigal Gurneyhalt
The snake is merely pressing hundreds of pairs of ribs into every
available indentation and lifting itself up on them. It's exactly the same
as a millipede's technique only the 'legs' are under the skin.
...Post by Jerry Friedman
...
understand either.
http://youtu.be/dTzJobmMEi8
It's not that difficult especially on a trunk as rough barked as that one....
Post by John Varela
Getting even further off-topic: What is it with snakes that climb
trees? How can they do that?
This one seems to be doing what they do on the ground, which I don'tGetting even further off-topic: What is it with snakes that climb
trees? How can they do that?
understand either.
http://youtu.be/dTzJobmMEi8
The snake is merely pressing hundreds of pairs of ribs into every
available indentation and lifting itself up on them. It's exactly the same
as a millipede's technique only the 'legs' are under the skin.
The Wikipedia article says it's the scales, not the ribs, and I think
it's too slow for what that Black Racer (I assume) is doing.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rectilinear_locomotion
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Jerry Friedman
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John Varela
2018-03-23 02:18:52 UTC
On Wed, 21 Mar 2018 22:45:37 UTC, Jerry Friedman
Post by Jerry Friedman
...
understand either.
http://youtu.be/dTzJobmMEi8
This one's system is easy to understand.
http://youtu.be/6tmDGhGacDQ
This one shares your confusion.
http://youtu.be/-aowHonobm8
Not very prehensile, though.
But on topic....
Post by John Varela
Getting even further off-topic: What is it with snakes that climb
trees? How can they do that?
This one seems to be doing what they do on the ground, which I don'tGetting even further off-topic: What is it with snakes that climb
trees? How can they do that?
understand either.
http://youtu.be/dTzJobmMEi8
This one's system is easy to understand.
http://youtu.be/6tmDGhGacDQ
This one shares your confusion.
http://youtu.be/-aowHonobm8
Not very prehensile, though.
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John Varela
John Varela
Cheryl
2018-03-22 02:16:24 UTC
Post by John Varela
<snip>
snakes might originate in, depending on your belief system,
inheritance from the Garden of Eden or from our arboreal ancesters
whose females had to defend their infants from tree snakes.
Getting even further off-topic: What is it with snakes that climb
trees? How can they do that? Getting back on topic: Sheep can't do
that and they have four limbs.
There's also the possibility that snakes have a bad reputation with<snip>
Post by Tak To
I was never particularly fascinated by snakes[1], nor was I
ever repulsed by them. However, I think some people, esp.
women, were conditioned to be or act squirmish about them.
That's common belief, if not actual knowledge. Women's thing aboutI was never particularly fascinated by snakes[1], nor was I
ever repulsed by them. However, I think some people, esp.
women, were conditioned to be or act squirmish about them.
snakes might originate in, depending on your belief system,
inheritance from the Garden of Eden or from our arboreal ancesters
whose females had to defend their infants from tree snakes.
Getting even further off-topic: What is it with snakes that climb
trees? How can they do that? Getting back on topic: Sheep can't do
that and they have four limbs.
everyone, male and female, because some of them are poisonous, and it's
almost as easy to accidentally disturb one as it is to accidentally
disturb a poisonous insect.
Women in some places seem to be taught that nervousness about small and
possibly dangerous animals is a sign of a delicate feminine nature,
although possibly the shape of snakes also makes them useful for sexual
innuendo. Other things generally considered to elicit squeamishness -
blood, excrement, human biological and illness-related details -
generally don't seem to be associated with femaleness. It always seemed
to be the big tough-looking men who passed out when donating blood, back
in the days when I was still eligible to donate myself, and so went to
clinics.
I'm not terribly familiar with snakes, although I was allowed to hold
one at a zoo, and the feel of the scales was quite pleasant. I'm not
generally squeamish - when I was a small child and the little boy from
across the road chased me with worms, my mother responded to my
complaint by saying that worms were completely harmless, and if I got
used to them so I wasn't upset, the boy would give up teasing me with
them. And he did.
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Madrigal Gurneyhalt
2018-03-22 11:05:32 UTC
Post by Cheryl
everyone, male and female, because some of them are poisonous, and it's
almost as easy to accidentally disturb one as it is to accidentally
disturb a poisonous insect.
Snakes are not poisonous. Indeed they make very good eatingPost by John Varela
<snip>
snakes might originate in, depending on your belief system,
inheritance from the Garden of Eden or from our arboreal ancesters
whose females had to defend their infants from tree snakes.
Getting even further off-topic: What is it with snakes that climb
trees? How can they do that? Getting back on topic: Sheep can't do
that and they have four limbs.
There's also the possibility that snakes have a bad reputation with<snip>
Post by Tak To
I was never particularly fascinated by snakes[1], nor was I
ever repulsed by them. However, I think some people, esp.
women, were conditioned to be or act squirmish about them.
That's common belief, if not actual knowledge. Women's thing aboutI was never particularly fascinated by snakes[1], nor was I
ever repulsed by them. However, I think some people, esp.
women, were conditioned to be or act squirmish about them.
snakes might originate in, depending on your belief system,
inheritance from the Garden of Eden or from our arboreal ancesters
whose females had to defend their infants from tree snakes.
Getting even further off-topic: What is it with snakes that climb
trees? How can they do that? Getting back on topic: Sheep can't do
that and they have four limbs.
everyone, male and female, because some of them are poisonous, and it's
almost as easy to accidentally disturb one as it is to accidentally
disturb a poisonous insect.
(so I'm told) as do many insects.
https://www.eatgrub.co.uk/
Peter Moylan
2018-03-22 14:18:34 UTC
Post by Madrigal Gurneyhalt
Snakes are not poisonous. Indeed they make very good eating
(so I'm told) as do many insects.
Just make sure you cut off the head.Snakes are not poisonous. Indeed they make very good eating
(so I'm told) as do many insects.
I've eaten snake, and indeed it's good eating. Traditional food in this
country, and it's a lot easier to cut off the head than to cut out the
poisonous part of the fish that's so popular in Japan.
--
Peter Moylan http://www.pmoylan.org
Newcastle, NSW, Australia
Peter Moylan http://www.pmoylan.org
Newcastle, NSW, Australia
Athel Cornish-Bowden
2018-03-23 09:11:18 UTC
[ ... ]
I'm not terribly familiar with snakes, although I was allowed to hold
one at a zoo, and the feel of the scales was quite pleasant.
I had that experience too in the 1950s, and it cured me for ever fromI'm not terribly familiar with snakes, although I was allowed to hold
one at a zoo, and the feel of the scales was quite pleasant.
the idea that snakes were slimy.
I'm not generally squeamish - when I was a small child and the little
boy from across the road chased me with worms, my mother responded to
my complaint by saying that worms were completely harmless, and if I
got used to them so I wasn't upset, the boy would give up teasing me
with them. And he did.
boy from across the road chased me with worms, my mother responded to
my complaint by saying that worms were completely harmless, and if I
got used to them so I wasn't upset, the boy would give up teasing me
with them. And he did.
--
athel
athel
Tony Cooper
2018-03-21 20:31:07 UTC
Post by Tak To
ever repulsed by them. However, I think some people, esp.
women, were conditioned to be or act squirmish about them.
Grandson's mother is not at all afraid to handle or squeamish (thePost by Tony Cooper
What's with the snake fascination that young teens have? The creature
is not a welcome guest in grandson's mother's eye.
I was never particularly fascinated by snakes[1], nor was IWhat's with the snake fascination that young teens have? The creature
is not a welcome guest in grandson's mother's eye.
ever repulsed by them. However, I think some people, esp.
women, were conditioned to be or act squirmish about them.
word I'm familiar with) about handling the snake. She just doesn't
think a snake is an appropriate pet. She feels snakes should be in
the yard going about their job of ridding the yard of rodents.
"Squirmish" is a new one on me although it is in the dictionary.
--
Tony Cooper - Orlando, Florida
Tony Cooper - Orlando, Florida
Peter Duncanson [BrE]
2018-03-21 22:39:47 UTC
On Wed, 21 Mar 2018 16:31:07 -0400, Tony Cooper
https://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=squirmish
Either the U.S. military intervention in Libya, March 2011, or what
happens when two worms get into a fight.
Sarah Palin: I haven't heard the President say that we are at war,
and that's why I too am not knowing, do we use the term
'intervention'? Do we use 'war'? Do we use 'squirmish'? What is it?
Jon Stewart: Squirmish, huh? Well, that's either some sophisticated
foreign policy analysis or what happens when worms get into a fight.
Post by Tony Cooper
word I'm familiar with) about handling the snake. She just doesn't
think a snake is an appropriate pet. She feels snakes should be in
the yard going about their job of ridding the yard of rodents.
"Squirmish" is a new one on me although it is in the dictionary.
"Squirmish" was used by Sarah Palin instead of "skirmish".Post by Tak To
ever repulsed by them. However, I think some people, esp.
women, were conditioned to be or act squirmish about them.
Grandson's mother is not at all afraid to handle or squeamish (thePost by Tony Cooper
What's with the snake fascination that young teens have? The creature
is not a welcome guest in grandson's mother's eye.
I was never particularly fascinated by snakes[1], nor was IWhat's with the snake fascination that young teens have? The creature
is not a welcome guest in grandson's mother's eye.
ever repulsed by them. However, I think some people, esp.
women, were conditioned to be or act squirmish about them.
word I'm familiar with) about handling the snake. She just doesn't
think a snake is an appropriate pet. She feels snakes should be in
the yard going about their job of ridding the yard of rodents.
"Squirmish" is a new one on me although it is in the dictionary.
https://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=squirmish
Either the U.S. military intervention in Libya, March 2011, or what
happens when two worms get into a fight.
Sarah Palin: I haven't heard the President say that we are at war,
and that's why I too am not knowing, do we use the term
'intervention'? Do we use 'war'? Do we use 'squirmish'? What is it?
Jon Stewart: Squirmish, huh? Well, that's either some sophisticated
foreign policy analysis or what happens when worms get into a fight.
--
Peter Duncanson, UK
(in alt.usage.english)
Peter Duncanson, UK
(in alt.usage.english)
Jerry Friedman
2018-03-21 21:35:47 UTC
Post by Tak To
ever repulsed by them. However, I think some people, esp.
women, were conditioned to be or act squirmish about them.
Probably. My sister used to have a pet garter snake, though, and feelsPost by Tony Cooper
handling a frozen mouse would be worse. Besides, his aquarium is not
equipped with a microwave to warm up the mouse for dinner.
What's with the snake fascination that young teens have? The creature
is not a welcome guest in grandson's mother's eye.
I was never particularly fascinated by snakes[1], nor was IPost by Peter Young
instance https://www.frozenrodent.co.uk/frozen-mice-2-c.asp
Ugh. Bad enough that he puts a live mouse in the aquarium, butPost by Tony Cooper
On Tue, 20 Mar 2018 09:41:23 -0700 (PDT), Madrigal Gurneyhalt
lives.
I don't think you can buy dead mice. The pet store sells live ones.
Pre-killing the mice before feeding the snake would not be something
grandson would relish.
As mentioned upthread over here you can buy frozen mice. See forOn Tue, 20 Mar 2018 09:41:23 -0700 (PDT), Madrigal Gurneyhalt
Post by Madrigal Gurneyhalt
The mice are alive when placed in the aquarium in which the pythonPost by Tony Cooper
On Tue, 20 Mar 2018 08:50:31 -0700 (PDT), Madrigal Gurneyhalt
--
I'm sure it is. They don't have to be live though!On Tue, 20 Mar 2018 08:50:31 -0700 (PDT), Madrigal Gurneyhalt
Post by Madrigal Gurneyhalt
keepers specifically instruct you never to do so.
Grandson has a Ball Python, and the recommenced diet is mice.Post by Peter T. Daniels
it's slimy. But it's not. A live snake's body feels like, well, snakeskin!
It's dry, and not warm, and it can tickle when it curls around your arm. If
it weren't for the live-mouse thing, a snake family would be nice pets.
It's not necessary to feed them live mice. Indeed many snakePost by Athel Cornish-Bowden
Y'know, how a lot of people don't want to touch a snake because they thinkPost by Peter T. Daniels
I wondered that.Post by b***@shaw.ca
A cow lick is what we imagine your hair would look like if a cow
had run its slimy tongue over your head, i.e. licked it.
Are cows' tongues slimy?A cow lick is what we imagine your hair would look like if a cow
had run its slimy tongue over your head, i.e. licked it.
it's slimy. But it's not. A live snake's body feels like, well, snakeskin!
It's dry, and not warm, and it can tickle when it curls around your arm. If
it weren't for the live-mouse thing, a snake family would be nice pets.
keepers specifically instruct you never to do so.
--
lives.
I don't think you can buy dead mice. The pet store sells live ones.
Pre-killing the mice before feeding the snake would not be something
grandson would relish.
instance https://www.frozenrodent.co.uk/frozen-mice-2-c.asp
handling a frozen mouse would be worse. Besides, his aquarium is not
equipped with a microwave to warm up the mouse for dinner.
What's with the snake fascination that young teens have? The creature
is not a welcome guest in grandson's mother's eye.
ever repulsed by them. However, I think some people, esp.
women, were conditioned to be or act squirmish about them.
a corn snake is an entirely appropriate pet for her younger daughter.
Many members of their church disagree.
It's just a legend that frogs are fascinated by snakes and get eaten
while hypnotized.
What? Oh. Never mind.
Post by Tak To
A woman that I know rather well recounted that one time
when she was a toddler she picked up a spider from the
floor to study it. The adults around her were horrified but > for her it was just another interesting crawly thing.
...A woman that I know rather well recounted that one time
when she was a toddler she picked up a spider from the
floor to study it. The adults around her were horrified but > for her it was just another interesting crawly thing.
My niece used to do that, too. Her mother was both fascinated and
alarmed when my niece came into the house saying "Pider, pider" and
holding a good-sized wasp.
Post by Tak To
Here is another interesting bit. When she was older she
moved to a new city with a slightly different culture. She
found that the young women of her age in the new place were
squirmish about a lot more things than her previous peer
group, and that it was best to keep her neutrality with
spiders to herself in order to fit in.
Are you sure it was the city and not just her particular acquaintances?Here is another interesting bit. When she was older she
moved to a new city with a slightly different culture. She
found that the young women of her age in the new place were
squirmish about a lot more things than her previous peer
group, and that it was best to keep her neutrality with
spiders to herself in order to fit in.
--
Jerry Friedman
Jerry Friedman
Peter Young
2018-03-20 16:35:27 UTC
Post by Madrigal Gurneyhalt
keepers specifically instruct you never to do so.
A colleague whose sons kept a corn snake fed them with frozen babyPost by Peter T. Daniels
it's slimy. But it's not. A live snake's body feels like, well, snakeskin!
It's dry, and not warm, and it can tickle when it curls around your arm. If
it weren't for the live-mouse thing, a snake family would be nice pets.
It's not necessary to feed them live mice. Indeed many snakePost by Athel Cornish-Bowden
Y'know, how a lot of people don't want to touch a snake because they thinkPost by Peter T. Daniels
I wondered that.Post by b***@shaw.ca
A cow lick is what we imagine your hair would look like if a cow
had run its slimy tongue over your head, i.e. licked it.
Are cows' tongues slimy?A cow lick is what we imagine your hair would look like if a cow
had run its slimy tongue over your head, i.e. licked it.
it's slimy. But it's not. A live snake's body feels like, well, snakeskin!
It's dry, and not warm, and it can tickle when it curls around your arm. If
it weren't for the live-mouse thing, a snake family would be nice pets.
keepers specifically instruct you never to do so.
mice from the pet shop.
Peter.
--
Peter Young, (BrE, RP), Consultant Anaesthetist, 1975-2004.
(US equivalent: Certified Anesthesiologist) (AUE Pt)
Cheltenham and Gloucester, UK. Now happily retired.
http://pnyoung.orpheusweb.co.uk
Peter Young, (BrE, RP), Consultant Anaesthetist, 1975-2004.
(US equivalent: Certified Anesthesiologist) (AUE Pt)
Cheltenham and Gloucester, UK. Now happily retired.
http://pnyoung.orpheusweb.co.uk
Peter T. Daniels
2018-03-20 20:17:22 UTC
Post by Peter Young
mice from the pet shop.
That could be problematic for the cold-blooded animals dining on them.Post by Madrigal Gurneyhalt
keepers specifically instruct you never to do so.
A colleague whose sons kept a corn snake fed them with frozen babyPost by Peter T. Daniels
it's slimy. But it's not. A live snake's body feels like, well, snakeskin!
It's dry, and not warm, and it can tickle when it curls around your arm. If
it weren't for the live-mouse thing, a snake family would be nice pets.
It's not necessary to feed them live mice. Indeed many snakePost by Athel Cornish-Bowden
Y'know, how a lot of people don't want to touch a snake because they thinkPost by Peter T. Daniels
I wondered that.Post by b***@shaw.ca
A cow lick is what we imagine your hair would look like if a cow
had run its slimy tongue over your head, i.e. licked it.
Are cows' tongues slimy?A cow lick is what we imagine your hair would look like if a cow
had run its slimy tongue over your head, i.e. licked it.
it's slimy. But it's not. A live snake's body feels like, well, snakeskin!
It's dry, and not warm, and it can tickle when it curls around your arm. If
it weren't for the live-mouse thing, a snake family would be nice pets.
keepers specifically instruct you never to do so.
mice from the pet shop.
RH Draney
2018-03-21 02:57:46 UTC
Post by Peter T. Daniels
I was thinking the same thing...surely a snake that hunts and feeds uponPost by Peter Young
mice from the pet shop.
That could be problematic for the cold-blooded animals dining on them.Post by Madrigal Gurneyhalt
It's not necessary to feed them live mice. Indeed many snake
keepers specifically instruct you never to do so.
A colleague whose sons kept a corn snake fed them with frozen babyIt's not necessary to feed them live mice. Indeed many snake
keepers specifically instruct you never to do so.
mice from the pet shop.
warm-blooded creatures would find a cold dead mouse less than palatable....r
Peter T. Daniels
2018-03-21 03:26:43 UTC
Post by RH Draney
warm-blooded creatures would find a cold dead mouse less than palatable....r
We could feed it Charlton Heston instead, now that his hands are cold and dead.Post by Peter T. Daniels
I was thinking the same thing...surely a snake that hunts and feeds uponPost by Peter Young
mice from the pet shop.
That could be problematic for the cold-blooded animals dining on them.Post by Madrigal Gurneyhalt
It's not necessary to feed them live mice. Indeed many snake
keepers specifically instruct you never to do so.
A colleague whose sons kept a corn snake fed them with frozen babyIt's not necessary to feed them live mice. Indeed many snake
keepers specifically instruct you never to do so.
mice from the pet shop.
warm-blooded creatures would find a cold dead mouse less than palatable....r
(Soylent Green is people.) (Spoiler alert.)
Tak To
2018-03-21 15:44:15 UTC
A different view point on making use of dead bodies can
be seen on Arrakis.
be seen on Arrakis.
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Madrigal Gurneyhalt
2018-03-21 12:03:03 UTC
Post by RH Draney
warm-blooded creatures would find a cold dead mouse less than palatable....r
Well clearly they don't, your anthropomorphic concerns notwithstanding.Post by Peter T. Daniels
I was thinking the same thing...surely a snake that hunts and feeds uponPost by Peter Young
mice from the pet shop.
That could be problematic for the cold-blooded animals dining on them.Post by Madrigal Gurneyhalt
It's not necessary to feed them live mice. Indeed many snake
keepers specifically instruct you never to do so.
A colleague whose sons kept a corn snake fed them with frozen babyIt's not necessary to feed them live mice. Indeed many snake
keepers specifically instruct you never to do so.
mice from the pet shop.
warm-blooded creatures would find a cold dead mouse less than palatable....r
J. J. Lodder
2018-03-21 12:20:54 UTC
Post by Madrigal Gurneyhalt
Since the snake may take weeks just to digest a mousePost by RH Draney
warm-blooded creatures would find a cold dead mouse less than palatable....r
Well clearly they don't, your anthropomorphic concerns notwithstanding.Post by Peter T. Daniels
I was thinking the same thing...surely a snake that hunts and feeds uponPost by Peter Young
mice from the pet shop.
That could be problematic for the cold-blooded animals dining on them.Post by Madrigal Gurneyhalt
It's not necessary to feed them live mice. Indeed many snake
keepers specifically instruct you never to do so.
A colleague whose sons kept a corn snake fed them with frozen babyIt's not necessary to feed them live mice. Indeed many snake
keepers specifically instruct you never to do so.
mice from the pet shop.
warm-blooded creatures would find a cold dead mouse less than palatable....r
the initial temperature will be of little importance,
Jan
CDB
2018-03-21 12:38:59 UTC
Post by RH Draney
upon warm-blooded creatures would find a cold dead mouse less than
palatable....r
Ashley, a cat in my custody at one time, used to have a frozen smeltPost by Peter T. Daniels
I was thinking the same thing...surely a snake that hunts and feedsPost by Peter Young
baby mice from the pet shop.
That could be problematic for the cold-blooded animals dining on them.Post by Madrigal Gurneyhalt
It's not necessary to feed them live mice. Indeed many snake
keepers specifically instruct you never to do so.
A colleague whose sons kept a corn snake fed them with frozenIt's not necessary to feed them live mice. Indeed many snake
keepers specifically instruct you never to do so.
baby mice from the pet shop.
upon warm-blooded creatures would find a cold dead mouse less than
palatable....r
every day with his dinner; a few seconds under the hot tap made it live
again. It was gutted, so a mouse might take a little longer.
Madrigal Gurneyhalt
2018-03-21 12:42:24 UTC
Post by CDB
every day with his dinner; a few seconds under the hot tap made it live
again.
You had hot running holy water?Post by RH Draney
upon warm-blooded creatures would find a cold dead mouse less than
palatable....r
Ashley, a cat in my custody at one time, used to have a frozen smeltPost by Peter T. Daniels
I was thinking the same thing...surely a snake that hunts and feedsPost by Peter Young
baby mice from the pet shop.
That could be problematic for the cold-blooded animals dining on them.Post by Madrigal Gurneyhalt
It's not necessary to feed them live mice. Indeed many snake
keepers specifically instruct you never to do so.
A colleague whose sons kept a corn snake fed them with frozenIt's not necessary to feed them live mice. Indeed many snake
keepers specifically instruct you never to do so.
baby mice from the pet shop.
upon warm-blooded creatures would find a cold dead mouse less than
palatable....r
every day with his dinner; a few seconds under the hot tap made it live
again.
I imagine it was. How would you feel about being resurrected only
to be fed to a cat?
CDB
2018-03-21 14:35:58 UTC
Post by Madrigal Gurneyhalt
It was drawn from the sacred River of the Outaouais.Post by CDB
smelt every day with his dinner; a few seconds under the hot tap
made it live again.
You had hot running holy water?Post by RH Draney
feeds upon warm-blooded creatures would find a cold dead mouse
less than palatable....r
Ashley, a cat in my custody at one time, used to have a frozenPost by Peter T. Daniels
I was thinking the same thing...surely a snake that hunts andPost by Peter Young
baby mice from the pet shop.
That could be problematic for the cold-blooded animals dining on them.Post by Madrigal Gurneyhalt
It's not necessary to feed them live mice. Indeed many
snake keepers specifically instruct you never to do so.
A colleague whose sons kept a corn snake fed them with frozenIt's not necessary to feed them live mice. Indeed many
snake keepers specifically instruct you never to do so.
baby mice from the pet shop.
feeds upon warm-blooded creatures would find a cold dead mouse
less than palatable....r
smelt every day with his dinner; a few seconds under the hot tap
made it live again.
Post by Madrigal Gurneyhalt
I imagine it was. How would you feel about being resurrected only to
be fed to a cat?
Like Heathfield's old sock.I imagine it was. How would you feel about being resurrected only to
be fed to a cat?
Tak To
2018-03-21 16:05:00 UTC
Post by CDB
every day with his dinner; a few seconds under the hot tap made it live
again. It was gutted, so a mouse might take a little longer.
My family used to buy a small fish or two in the market, friedPost by RH Draney
upon warm-blooded creatures would find a cold dead mouse less than
palatable....r
Ashley, a cat in my custody at one time, used to have a frozen smeltPost by Peter T. Daniels
I was thinking the same thing...surely a snake that hunts and feedsPost by Peter Young
baby mice from the pet shop.
That could be problematic for the cold-blooded animals dining on them.Post by Madrigal Gurneyhalt
It's not necessary to feed them live mice. Indeed many snake
keepers specifically instruct you never to do so.
A colleague whose sons kept a corn snake fed them with frozenIt's not necessary to feed them live mice. Indeed many snake
keepers specifically instruct you never to do so.
baby mice from the pet shop.
upon warm-blooded creatures would find a cold dead mouse less than
palatable....r
every day with his dinner; a few seconds under the hot tap made it live
again. It was gutted, so a mouse might take a little longer.
them and mixed them with rice for our cats (1-3 in number).
Not everyday, but sometimes when none of our dinner dishes
was suitable for them.
(This was in a time and place where no one had refrigerators,
people fed cats with dinner leftovers, and the markets sold
cheap fish ostensibly for cats.)
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2018-03-21 22:16:05 UTC
Post by Athel Cornish-Bowden
Slobbery, if horses' and dogs' tongues are any indication.Post by Peter T. Daniels
I wondered that.Post by b***@shaw.ca
A cow lick is what we imagine your hair would look like if a cow
had run its slimy tongue over your head, i.e. licked it.
Are cows' tongues slimy?A cow lick is what we imagine your hair would look like if a cow
had run its slimy tongue over your head, i.e. licked it.
(Cats' tongues not so much, smaller mouth and different texture.)
Post by Athel Cornish-Bowden
Unless you've been pooch-kissed.Post by Peter T. Daniels
Post by b***@shaw.ca
In practice it is usually one or more tufts of hair that resist being combed
in the same direction as the rest of your hair.
You can keep trying to train it with repeated combing or brushing,
or use hair oil on it, or cut it short. If a cow actually licked your hair,
I think you're going to have to wash it.
In practice it is usually one or more tufts of hair that resist being combed
in the same direction as the rest of your hair.
You can keep trying to train it with repeated combing or brushing,
or use hair oil on it, or cut it short. If a cow actually licked your hair,
I think you're going to have to wash it.
/dps
Tony Cooper
2018-03-18 23:17:43 UTC
Post by b***@shaw.ca
A cow lick is what we imagine your hair would look like if a cow
had run its slimy tongue over your head, i.e. licked it.
In practice it is usually one or more tufts of hair that resist being combed
in the same direction as the rest of your hair.
You can keep trying to train it with repeated combing or brushing,
or use hair oil on it, or cut it short. If a cow actually licked your hair,
I think you're going to have to wash it.
My cowlick disappeared along with all the hair on the top of my head.A cow lick is what we imagine your hair would look like if a cow
had run its slimy tongue over your head, i.e. licked it.
In practice it is usually one or more tufts of hair that resist being combed
in the same direction as the rest of your hair.
You can keep trying to train it with repeated combing or brushing,
or use hair oil on it, or cut it short. If a cow actually licked your hair,
I think you're going to have to wash it.
There is no remaining swirl in the scalp.
--
Tony Cooper - Orlando, Florida
Tony Cooper - Orlando, Florida
Joy Beeson
2018-03-19 03:45:13 UTC
Post by b***@shaw.ca
You can keep trying to train it with repeated combing or brushing,
or use hair oil on it, or cut it short.
Cowlicks don't train.You can keep trying to train it with repeated combing or brushing,
or use hair oil on it, or cut it short.
If you've got seven of them, you go to a very good hairdresser who can
make them look artistic.
My father wore a stocking cap after showering to hold the cowlick flat
until it dried. Then the "butch" cut came into style and he wore it
the rest of his life.
My cowlick shows only when I pin my hair up, so I try to poof the rest
to match. When I'm in a hurry, I just say "I meant to do that.".
--
Joy Beeson, U.S.A., mostly central Hoosier,
some Northern Indiana, Upstate New York, Florida, and Hawaii
joy beeson at comcast dot net http://wlweather.net/PAGEJOY/
The above message is a Usenet post.
I don't recall having given anyone permission to use it on a Web site.
Joy Beeson, U.S.A., mostly central Hoosier,
some Northern Indiana, Upstate New York, Florida, and Hawaii
joy beeson at comcast dot net http://wlweather.net/PAGEJOY/
The above message is a Usenet post.
I don't recall having given anyone permission to use it on a Web site.
Simon Roberts
2018-03-21 16:13:28 UTC
Post by Joy Beeson
If you've got seven of them, you go to a very good hairdresser who can
make them look artistic.
My father wore a stocking cap after showering to hold the cowlick flat
until it dried. Then the "butch" cut came into style and he wore it
the rest of his life.
My cowlick shows only when I pin my hair up, so I try to poof the rest
to match. When I'm in a hurry, I just say "I meant to do that.".
--
Joy Beeson, U.S.A., mostly central Hoosier,
some Northern Indiana, Upstate New York, Florida, and Hawaii
joy beeson at comcast dot net http://wlweather.net/PAGEJOY/
The above message is a Usenet post.
I don't recall having given anyone permission to use it on a Web site.
(off topic)Post by b***@shaw.ca
You can keep trying to train it with repeated combing or brushing,
or use hair oil on it, or cut it short.
Cowlicks don't train.You can keep trying to train it with repeated combing or brushing,
or use hair oil on it, or cut it short.
If you've got seven of them, you go to a very good hairdresser who can
make them look artistic.
My father wore a stocking cap after showering to hold the cowlick flat
until it dried. Then the "butch" cut came into style and he wore it
the rest of his life.
My cowlick shows only when I pin my hair up, so I try to poof the rest
to match. When I'm in a hurry, I just say "I meant to do that.".
--
Joy Beeson, U.S.A., mostly central Hoosier,
some Northern Indiana, Upstate New York, Florida, and Hawaii
joy beeson at comcast dot net http://wlweather.net/PAGEJOY/
The above message is a Usenet post.
I don't recall having given anyone permission to use it on a Web site.
Ever read or hear:
'AS_useless as tits [teats] on a bull'?
b***@shaw.ca
2018-03-18 18:49:11 UTC
A cow lick is what we imagine your hair would look like if a cow
had run its slimy tongue over your head, i.e. licked it.
In practice it is usually one or more tufts of hair that resist being combed
in the same direction as the rest of your hair.
You can keep trying to train it with repeated combing or brushing,
or use hair oil on it, or cut it short. If a cow actually licked your hair,
I think you're going to have to wash it.
bill
had run its slimy tongue over your head, i.e. licked it.
In practice it is usually one or more tufts of hair that resist being combed
in the same direction as the rest of your hair.
You can keep trying to train it with repeated combing or brushing,
or use hair oil on it, or cut it short. If a cow actually licked your hair,
I think you're going to have to wash it.
bill
B***@37.com
2018-03-21 21:33:09 UTC
Does a cow lick presage any sparce growth or baldness in the area circa the whirl?
And why would always seem to happen after going to a Vietnamese barber?
And why would always seem to happen after going to a Vietnamese barber?
B***@37.com
2018-03-29 18:58:44 UTC
Anybody know if ordinary baseball cap work worn straghtwards can induce a Cowlick?
I put a flat brush comb tucked into the brim too.
Never had this problem before and trying to find the answer.
Thank you.
I put a flat brush comb tucked into the brim too.
Never had this problem before and trying to find the answer.
Thank you.
CDB
2018-03-30 13:50:37 UTC
Post by B***@37.com
Anybody know if ordinary baseball cap work worn straghtwards can induce a Cowlick?
Congratulations!Anybody know if ordinary baseball cap work worn straghtwards can induce a Cowlick?
I think they're congenital. Try not wearing the cap for a day or two.
Get a significant other to give you a headrub.
Post by B***@37.com
I put a flat brush comb tucked into the brim too.
Never had this problem before and trying to find the answer.
Or get a horse.I put a flat brush comb tucked into the brim too.
Never had this problem before and trying to find the answer.
Richard Yates
2018-03-31 12:56:29 UTC
Post by CDB
I think they're congenital. Try not wearing the cap for a day or two.
Get a significant other to give you a headrub.
https://tinyurl.com/y7knso7aPost by B***@37.com
Anybody know if ordinary baseball cap work worn straghtwards can induce a Cowlick?
Congratulations!Anybody know if ordinary baseball cap work worn straghtwards can induce a Cowlick?
I think they're congenital. Try not wearing the cap for a day or two.
Get a significant other to give you a headrub.
Post by B***@37.com
I put a flat brush comb tucked into the brim too.
Never had this problem before and trying to find the answer.
Or get a horse.I put a flat brush comb tucked into the brim too.
Never had this problem before and trying to find the answer.
b***@gmail.com
2018-04-02 01:48:15 UTC
Post by Richard Yates
cutePost by CDB
I think they're congenital. Try not wearing the cap for a day or two.
Get a significant other to give you a headrub.
https://tinyurl.com/y7knso7aPost by B***@37.com
Anybody know if ordinary baseball cap work worn straghtwards can induce a Cowlick?
Congratulations!Anybody know if ordinary baseball cap work worn straghtwards can induce a Cowlick?
I think they're congenital. Try not wearing the cap for a day or two.
Get a significant other to give you a headrub.
Post by B***@37.com
I put a flat brush comb tucked into the brim too.
Never had this problem before and trying to find the answer.
Or get a horse.I put a flat brush comb tucked into the brim too.
Never had this problem before and trying to find the answer.