On Saturday, July 7, 2018 at 8:01:41 AM UTC-4, Madrigal Gurneyhalt wrote:
> On Friday, 6 July 2018 22:54:48 UTC+1, Peter T. Daniels wrote:
> > On Friday, July 6, 2018 at 5:44:04 PM UTC-4, ***@gmail.com wrote:
> > > On Friday, July 6, 2018 at 1:38:58 PM UTC-7, Peter T. Daniels wrote:
> > > > On Friday, July 6, 2018 at 4:06:03 PM UTC-4, Madrigal Gurneyhalt wrote:
> > > > > On Friday, 6 July 2018 20:44:24 UTC+1, Peter T. Daniels wrote:
> > > > > > On Friday, July 6, 2018 at 1:22:24 PM UTC-4, Madrigal Gurneyhalt wrote:
> > > > > > > On Friday, 6 July 2018 18:11:20 UTC+1, PeterWD wrote:
> > > > > > > > On Fri, 6 Jul 2018 09:56:17 -0700 (PDT), Madrigal Gurneyhalt
> > > > > > > > <***@googlemail.com> wrote:
> > > > > > > > >On Friday, 6 July 2018 14:45:03 UTC+1, Richard Tobin wrote:
> > > > > > > > >> Also, tomatoes are vegetables, and there are nine planets.
> > > > > > > > >Tomatoes are fruits and there are 3805 known planets and
> > > > > > > > >thousands more as yet unknown.
> > > > > > > > Tomatoes are botanically fruits, but in a culinary context they are
> > > > > > > > treated as vegetables. The same with cucumbers.
> > > > > > > Are they? Or are they used in savoury dishes in much the same way
> > > > > > > as other fruits? Cucumber, I'll grant you, but tomato, it seems to
> > > > > > > me, has very little in the way of usage that justifies even suggesting
> > > > > > > that it is a vegetable.
> > > > > > What do you do with tomatoes other than cut them into nice wedges or slices
> > > > > > for a green salad, or as a topping on a burger, or puree them into any
> > > > > > of a vast array of sauces? Or dice them for salsa, but maybe you don't
> > > > > > have salsa Over There yet (not long ago it passed ketchup as the US's
> > > > > > best-selling condiment). Those are all vegetable, not fruit, functions.
> > > > > Tomato juice/Bloody Mary not served in American bars then? And I didn't
> > > > > deny that it had vegetable like uses, only that other fruits serve exactly
> > > > > the same purposes without being redefined as vegetables.
> > > > Unlike any fruit juice.
> > > > What non-vegetable fruits appear in salads, as condiments, and as the
> > > > principal component of sauces?
> > > Would you count grapes (and raisins) and perhaps quince and gooseberry?
> > I haven't heard of grape or raisin sauce. Raisins can be included in a
> > sort of sauce often served with ham. Applesauce isn't a sauce.
> > I'm pretty sure I have never been in the presence of either a quince or a
> > gooseberry.
Gooseberry figured in last night's episode of The Great British Baking
Show, which is being shown (for the first time?) on Thirteen. Oddly, the
episode was dedicated simply to "Desserts," and the first task, the
"signature bake," was the same assignment as last week's show was devoted
to, namely, "a torte."
The "technical bake" was then a "crème caramel," which appears to be
identical to a flan (two contestants used only egg yolks instead of whole
eggs and their custards failed to solidify; Mary BarryBerryBurry mocked
them by saying "the assignment was crème caramel, not crème patisserie),
and the "showstopper" requested merely "meringue with lots of layers."
Turns out GBBS is identical in format to the Great American Baking Show,
which was on ABC for two seasons plus two episodes -- last summer's series
simply disappeared after the first two episodes were aired -- even being
short enough to accommodate commercials, which on PBS are not inserted.
But the two hosts aren't identified (just as Ian Gomez and Nia Vardalos
never identified themselves on GABS); I choose to imagine they're the two
women from AbFab.
> > > With all the emphasis these days on STEM classes, should we move on to rhubarb?
> > Not for me, thank you.
> > > /dps "now for root desserts, what do we have?"
> > Tapioca pudding, maybe? Sweet potato pie?
> Apple sauce isn't a sauce?
I don't know what "apple sauce" may be -- sounds like something quite
different -- but applesauce is a preparation of apples that have been
cooked most of the way to mushiness (there are also "chunky" varieties)
and is fairly viscous that is mostly a dessert but is also served as a condiment with pork chops, for dipping. It is not a sauce that can be
poured over a dish.
> What is it then? Which part of the OED
> definition ...
> Any preparation, usually liquid or soft, and often consisting of
> several ingredients, intended to be eaten as an appetizing
> accompaniment to some article of food.
> ... does it fail to meet? (Or should that be 'fail to meat?)
You must have not looked up "applesauce."