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Hen Hanna
2018-01-11 19:40:37 UTC
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I started reading the [bilingual puns] thread
from the beginning....


Would you say that AUE was more lively 10 years ago ?

Did it have more ppl ?


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I'd tell it this way:

Q. What do you call The Five Books of Moses
stored in a big condom
for (its and) our protection ?

A. Safer Torah.


HH
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2018-01-11 21:26:07 UTC
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I started reading the [bilingual puns] thread
from the beginning....
Would you say that AUE was more lively 10 years ago ?
Did it have more ppl ?
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Q. What do you call The Five Books of Moses
stored in a big condom
for (its and) our protection ?
A. Safer Torah.
HH
I was on AUE ten years ago, and yes, there were certainly lots of
clever-clever gags I hadn't a clue about (like that one).

DC

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2018-01-12 10:18:36 UTC
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Would you say that AUE was more lively 10 years ago ?
How would you measure 'lively'?
There were boring and lively threads then
there are boring and lively threads now.
You won't get agreement on which is which.
Post by Hen Hanna
Did it have more ppl ?
The answer to that is yes, unfortunately,
but not by much. (whatever you want 'ppl' to mean)
I'll take it as postings per lunation.

10 years ago there were about 9000 postings/month,
nowadays only 7000. (for last november)
A very good record, given the much faster decline
in almost all other usenet groups.

And stil far too much to read it all,

Jan
Peter T. Daniels
2018-01-12 13:03:47 UTC
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Post by Hen Hanna
Would you say that AUE was more lively 10 years ago ?
How would you measure 'lively'?
There were boring and lively threads then
there are boring and lively threads now.
You won't get agreement on which is which.
Post by Hen Hanna
Did it have more ppl ?
The answer to that is yes, unfortunately,
but not by much. (whatever you want 'ppl' to mean)
I'll take it as postings per lunation.
"ppl" normally means "people."
Post by J. J. Lodder
10 years ago there were about 9000 postings/month,
nowadays only 7000. (for last november)
A very good record, given the much faster decline
in almost all other usenet groups.
And stil far too much to read it all,
Wrong. They (omitting the spams) can all be glanced at.
J. J. Lodder
2018-01-12 13:38:04 UTC
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Post by J. J. Lodder
Post by Hen Hanna
Would you say that AUE was more lively 10 years ago ?
How would you measure 'lively'?
There were boring and lively threads then
there are boring and lively threads now.
You won't get agreement on which is which.
Post by Hen Hanna
Did it have more ppl ?
The answer to that is yes, unfortunately,
but not by much. (whatever you want 'ppl' to mean)
I'll take it as postings per lunation.
"ppl" normally means "people."
You don't say. Really?
Post by Peter T. Daniels
Post by J. J. Lodder
10 years ago there were about 9000 postings/month,
nowadays only 7000. (for last november)
A very good record, given the much faster decline
in almost all other usenet groups.
And stil far too much to read it all,
Wrong. They (omitting the spams) can all be glanced at.
Ah, so there lies your problem,

Jan
Hen Hanna
2018-01-12 20:03:10 UTC
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Post by Hen Hanna
Would you say that AUE was more lively 10 years ago ?
How would you measure 'lively'?
There were boring and lively threads then
there are boring and lively threads now.
You won't get agreement on which is which.
Post by Hen Hanna
Did it have more ppl ?
The answer to that is yes, unfortunately,
but not by much. (whatever you want 'ppl' to mean)
I'll take it as postings per lunation.
10 years ago there were about 9000 postings/month,
nowadays only 7000. (for last november)
A very good record, given the much faster decline
in almost all other usenet groups.
And stil far too much to read it all,
Jan
actually, I'm more interested in the _quality_ of the Posts.


iow.... 10 years ago, was it as common
for a nice thread to be ruined by many annoying
off-topic chatter about
trivial matters (like names for sausage)?


-- confined within its own thread, [names for sausage]
could be a nice topic for AUE.

For decades, I vaguely thought that Brotwurst
must be have Bread in its ingredients.
(or that it goes with Bread)

until a few days ago, when I realized the correct spelling.

For the next 10 years, I may keep thinking that
Brat in Bratwurst means "burned" just like
Brannt in Branntwein.

HH



* PPL is most commonly the abbreviation for people in text messages. However, it can be used to mean: peed pants laughing or pay per lead.


** Pay per lead (PPL) is a form of cost per acquisition, with the “acquisition” in this case being the delivery of a lead. Online and Offline advertising payment model in which fees are charged based solely on the delivery of leads.
J. J. Lodder
2018-01-12 21:17:26 UTC
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Post by Hen Hanna
Post by J. J. Lodder
Post by Hen Hanna
Would you say that AUE was more lively 10 years ago ?
How would you measure 'lively'?
There were boring and lively threads then
there are boring and lively threads now.
You won't get agreement on which is which.
Post by Hen Hanna
Did it have more ppl ?
The answer to that is yes, unfortunately,
but not by much. (whatever you want 'ppl' to mean)
I'll take it as postings per lunation.
10 years ago there were about 9000 postings/month,
nowadays only 7000. (for last november)
A very good record, given the much faster decline
in almost all other usenet groups.
And stil far too much to read it all,
actually, I'm more interested in the _quality_ of the Posts.
That's in the eye of the beholder.
Do you mind being told that your postings in this group
are not universaly admired as being of the highest _quality_ ?
(or even as improving the average quality)
Post by Hen Hanna
iow.... 10 years ago, was it as common
for a nice thread to be ruined by many annoying
off-topic chatter about
trivial matters (like names for sausage)?
You want electric kettles instead?
Post by Hen Hanna
* PPL is most commonly the abbreviation for people in text messages.
However, it can be used to mean: peed pants laughing or pay per lead.
** Pay per lead (PPL) is a form of cost per acquisition, with the
"acquisition" in this case being the delivery of a lead. Online and
Offline advertising payment model in which fees are charged based solely
on the delivery of leads.
From now on, in this thread, it's posts per lunation,
because I made it so,

Jan
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2018-01-12 22:09:50 UTC
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Post by Hen Hanna
Would you say that AUE was more lively 10 years ago ?
How would you measure 'lively'?
There were boring and lively threads then
there are boring and lively threads now.
You won't get agreement on which is which.
Post by Hen Hanna
Did it have more ppl ?
The answer to that is yes, unfortunately,
but not by much. (whatever you want 'ppl' to mean)
I'll take it as postings per lunation.
10 years ago there were about 9000 postings/month,
nowadays only 7000. (for last november)
A very good record, given the much faster decline
in almost all other usenet groups.
And stil far too much to read it all,
actually, I'm more interested in the _quality_ of the Posts.
That's in the eye of the beholder.
Do you mind being told that your postings in this group
are not universaly admired as being of the highest _quality_ ?
(or even as improving the average quality)
Post by Hen Hanna
iow.... 10 years ago, was it as common
for a nice thread to be ruined by many annoying
off-topic chatter about
trivial matters (like names for sausage)?
Well, of course. Where do you think the pun cascades and govende branches
come from?

And here's some supporting evidence, where "cheers and tigers"
morphed into "breakfasts".
<URL:https://groups.google.com/d/topic/alt.usage.english/zhvJFe25xAc/discussion>
and this one where the subject line didn't change,
still reflecting a brand name, but a signficant
number of posts were about Simpson's Paradox (not Bart,apparently)
and statistics:
https://groups.google.com/d/topic/alt.usage.english/7u1gICIt6co/discussion
Post by J. J. Lodder
You want electric kettles instead?
We could go 'round and round on this sort of thing.
Post by J. J. Lodder
Post by Hen Hanna
* PPL is most commonly the abbreviation for people in text messages.
and in various tables and summaries scattered across the trades.
Post by J. J. Lodder
Post by Hen Hanna
However, it can be used to mean: peed pants laughing or pay per lead.
** Pay per lead (PPL) is a form of cost per acquisition, with the
"acquisition" in this case being the delivery of a lead. Online and
Offline advertising payment model in which fees are charged based solely
on the delivery of leads.
From now on, in this thread, it's posts per lunation,
because I made it so,
So sayeth I.

/dps "aye"

(but yes, some important contributors got tired of me and wandered away,
or were bored to death by me)

/dps
John Varela
2018-01-14 00:06:08 UTC
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iow.... 10 years ago, was it as common
for a nice thread to be ruined by many annoying
off-topic chatter about
trivial matters (like names for sausage)?
Jeez I can recall bantering with Areff over whether a hot dog is a
sandwich at least 10, maybe more than 15 years ago.

<snip>
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2018-01-14 07:12:29 UTC
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Post by Hen Hanna
iow.... 10 years ago, was it as common
for a nice thread to be ruined by many annoying
off-topic chatter about
trivial matters (like names for sausage)?
Jeez I can recall bantering with Areff over whether a hot dog is a
sandwich at least 10, maybe more than 15 years ago.
I seem to remember arguments then about whether Chicago-style pizza was
the greatest delicacy invented in the history of gastronomy.

Anyway, to answer the question, some things were certainly better ten
years ago: Bob Lieblich and Skitt are sorely missed. There were others
who were admired by some, like Bob Cunningham and Charles Riggs, who
were appreciated by some, but not by me. Also, no Hen Hanna or the
nasty little man. I forget exactly when it was that the latter infected
this group (not counting times when cross-posts by Adam Funk brought
him kicking and screaming from sci.lang) but I think it was less than
ten years ago. On the other hand, it's not all negative: I already knew
Ross from sci.lang, but I don't think he posted here; of people I
didn't know, bebercito, billvan, Cheryl, lanarcam, and others that
don't immediately spring to mind, have brought new life to the group.
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2018-01-15 20:50:12 UTC
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Post by Hen Hanna
iow.... 10 years ago, was it as common
for a nice thread to be ruined by many annoying
off-topic chatter about
trivial matters (like names for sausage)?
Jeez I can recall bantering with Areff over whether a hot dog is a
sandwich at least 10, maybe more than 15 years ago.
I seem to remember arguments then about whether Chicago-style pizza was
the greatest delicacy invented in the history of gastronomy.
Anyway, to answer the question, some things were certainly better ten
years ago: Bob Lieblich and Skitt are sorely missed.
Indeed.

There are many others. I was going to here insert a link to the
photo gallery on the Web site, but the site seems to be gone. Is it
available in some archive? All I could find was

aboutus.com/Alt-Usage-English.org.
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There were others
who were admired by some, like Bob Cunningham and Charles Riggs, who
were appreciated by some, but not by me.
Charles got on my case about 20 years ago when I was a newbie and
had posted about a huge banner on Washington's National Gallery of
Art announcing an exhibit called "Degas the Dancers". To an
engineer, degas is a verb meaning to remove gas from. I thought
"Degas the Dancers" was funny. Charles thought my post was a prime
example of how AUE was going to Hell, and I was a prime example of
why it was going to Hell.

That incident is clearly on topic for this thread. AUE has been
going to Hell for at least 20 years but it somehow still draws three
or four hundred posts a day.

In time, Charles and I became Internet friends. I miss him.
Post by Athel Cornish-Bowden
Also, no Hen Hanna or the nasty little man.
There have been a lot of odd characters in and out of this group,
but most of them just made things interesting. Some are just
nuisances, and I have far more entries in my killfile today than I
did years ago.
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I forget exactly when it was that the latter infected
this group (not counting times when cross-posts by Adam Funk brought
him kicking and screaming from sci.lang) but I think it was less than
ten years ago. On the other hand, it's not all negative: I already knew
Ross from sci.lang, but I don't think he posted here; of people I
didn't know, bebercito, billvan, Cheryl, lanarcam, and others that
don't immediately spring to mind, have brought new life to the group.
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2018-01-15 23:15:43 UTC
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Post by Hen Hanna
iow.... 10 years ago, was it as common
for a nice thread to be ruined by many annoying
off-topic chatter about
trivial matters (like names for sausage)?
Jeez I can recall bantering with Areff over whether a hot dog is a
sandwich at least 10, maybe more than 15 years ago.
I seem to remember arguments then about whether Chicago-style pizza was
the greatest delicacy invented in the history of gastronomy.
Anyway, to answer the question, some things were certainly better ten
years ago: Bob Lieblich and Skitt are sorely missed.
Indeed.
There are many others. I was going to here insert a link to the
photo gallery on the Web site, but the site seems to be gone. Is it
available in some archive? All I could find was
aboutus.com/Alt-Usage-English.org.
The AUE website is archived on the WaybackMachine at:
https://web.archive.org/web/20160707184151/http://alt-usage-english.org/sitemap.html
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Post by Athel Cornish-Bowden
There were others
who were admired by some, like Bob Cunningham and Charles Riggs, who
were appreciated by some, but not by me.
Charles got on my case about 20 years ago when I was a newbie and
had posted about a huge banner on Washington's National Gallery of
Art announcing an exhibit called "Degas the Dancers". To an
engineer, degas is a verb meaning to remove gas from. I thought
"Degas the Dancers" was funny. Charles thought my post was a prime
example of how AUE was going to Hell, and I was a prime example of
why it was going to Hell.
That incident is clearly on topic for this thread. AUE has been
going to Hell for at least 20 years but it somehow still draws three
or four hundred posts a day.
In time, Charles and I became Internet friends. I miss him.
Post by Athel Cornish-Bowden
Also, no Hen Hanna or the nasty little man.
There have been a lot of odd characters in and out of this group,
but most of them just made things interesting. Some are just
nuisances, and I have far more entries in my killfile today than I
did years ago.
Post by Athel Cornish-Bowden
I forget exactly when it was that the latter infected
this group (not counting times when cross-posts by Adam Funk brought
him kicking and screaming from sci.lang) but I think it was less than
ten years ago. On the other hand, it's not all negative: I already knew
Ross from sci.lang, but I don't think he posted here; of people I
didn't know, bebercito, billvan, Cheryl, lanarcam, and others that
don't immediately spring to mind, have brought new life to the group.
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I could not find a photo of the AUE Committee. Any ideas?
Peter Young
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I could not find a photo of the AUE Committee. Any ideas?
It's printed in invisible ink. I think Samantha of ISIHAC may have an
idea of how it could be accessed.

Peter.
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I could not find a photo of the AUE Committee. Any ideas?
The only photo of The Committee is kept at The Unseen University.
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I could not find a photo of the AUE Committee. Any ideas?
There is no committee. I know this because the committee, which doesn't
exist, said so.
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I could not find a photo of the AUE Committee. Any ideas?
There is no committee. I know this because the committee, which doesn't
exist, said so.
No they didn't. I know because I wasn't there that day. Or any other.
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I could not find a photo of the AUE Committee. Any ideas?
There is no committee. I know this because the committee, which doesn't
exist, said so.
No they didn't. I know because I wasn't there that day. Or any other.
Yesterday upon the stair
I met a man who wasn't there.
He wasn't there again today.
I wish that man would go away.

That man was a committee member, evidently.

Peter.
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(US equivalent: Certified Anesthesiologist) (AUE Pt)
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http://pnyoung.orpheusweb.co.uk
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I could not find a photo of the AUE Committee. Any ideas?
There is no committee. I know this because the committee, which doesn't
exist, said so.
No they didn't. I know because I wasn't there that day. Or any other.
Yesterday upon the stair
I met a man who wasn't there.
He wasn't there again today.
I wish that man would go away.
That man was a committee member, evidently.
Peter.
A member of _what_ committee?
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I could not find a photo of the AUE Committee. Any ideas?
There is no committee. I know this because the committee, which doesn't
exist, said so.
No they didn't. I know because I wasn't there that day. Or any other.
Yesterday upon the stair
I met a man who wasn't there.
He wasn't there again today.
I wish that man would go away.
That man was a committee member, evidently.
Peter.
A member of _what_ committee?
Peter - if you have to ask, you do not need to know. Sorry.
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I could not find a photo of the AUE Committee. Any ideas?
There is no committee. I know this because the committee, which doesn't
exist, said so.
No they didn't. I know because I wasn't there that day. Or any other.
Yesterday upon the stair
I met a man who wasn't there.
He wasn't there again today.
I wish that man would go away.
That man was a committee member, evidently.
Peter.
A member of _what_ committee?
Peter - if you have to ask, you do not need to know. Sorry.
If you really want to understand it, think of a bloodsucking vampire's
lack of reflection in a mirror.

During the day they sleep is sci.crypt.
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I could not find a photo of the AUE Committee. Any ideas?
There is no committee. I know this because the committee, which doesn't
exist, said so.
No they didn't. I know because I wasn't there that day. Or any other.
Yesterday upon the stair
I met a man who wasn't there.
He wasn't there again today.
I wish that man would go away.
That man was a committee member, evidently.
Peter.
A member of _what_ committee?
TINC

Janet
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I could not find a photo of the AUE Committee. Any ideas?
There is no committee. I know this because the committee, which doesn't
exist, said so.
No they didn't. I know because I wasn't there that day. Or any other.
Yesterday upon the stair
I met a man who wasn't there.
He wasn't there again today.
I wish that man would go away.
That man was a committee member, evidently.
Peter.
A member of _what_ committee?
TINC
That is the sound made when a member of the committee presses the "+1"
button.
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I could not find a photo of the AUE Committee. Any ideas?
There is no committee. I know this because the committee, which doesn't
exist, said so.
No they didn't. I know because I wasn't there that day. Or any other.
Yesterday upon the stair
I met a man who wasn't there.
He wasn't there again today.
I wish that man would go away.
That man was a committee member, evidently.
Peter.
A member of _what_ committee?
TINC
Tinc'a Tinc'a Doooooo!

/dps "just nosing around"
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I could not find a photo of the AUE Committee. Any ideas?
There is no committee. I know this because the committee, which doesn't
exist, said so.
No they didn't. I know because I wasn't there that day. Or any other.
Yesterday upon the stair
I met a man who wasn't there.
He wasn't there again today.
I wish that man would go away.
That man was a committee member, evidently.
Peter.
--
Peter Young, (BrE, RP), Consultant Anaesthetist, 1975-2004.
(US equivalent: Certified Anesthesiologist) (AUE Pt)
Cheltenham and Gloucester, UK. Now happily retired.
http://pnyoung.orpheusweb.co.uk
Version I know:

Yesterday upon the stair
I saw a man who wasn't there.
He wasn't there again today.
Oh how I wish he'd go away.
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I could not find a photo of the AUE Committee. Any ideas?
There is no committee. I know this because the committee, which doesn't
exist, said so.
No they didn't. I know because I wasn't there that day. Or any other.
Yesterday upon the stair
I met a man who wasn't there.
He wasn't there again today.
I wish that man would go away.
That man was a committee member, evidently.
Peter.
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Peter Young, (BrE, RP), Consultant Anaesthetist, 1975-2004.
(US equivalent: Certified Anesthesiologist) (AUE Pt)
Cheltenham and Gloucester, UK. Now happily retired.
http://pnyoung.orpheusweb.co.uk
Yesterday upon the stair
I saw a man who wasn't there.
He wasn't there again today.
Oh how I wish he'd go away.
The original poem by William Hughes Mearns, written in 1899
is entitled "Antigonish" and goes like this ...

As I was going up the stair
I met a man who wasn't there!
He wasn't there again today,
Oh how I wish he'd go away!

When I came home last night at three,
The man was waiting there for me
But when I looked around the hall,
I couldn't see him there at all!
Go away, go away, don't you come back any more!
Go away, go away, and please don't slam the door...

Last night I saw upon the stair,
A little man who wasn't there,
He wasn't there again today
Oh, how I wish he'd go away...

This is the version I've always known. However, variations
are understandable as the poet himself wrote many parodic
versions of the verse and it has been widely used in other
works.
Snidely
2018-01-16 09:25:41 UTC
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[...] I was going to here insert a link to the
photo gallery on the Web site, but the site seems to be gone. Is it
available in some archive? All I could find was
aboutus.com/Alt-Usage-English.org.
https://web.archive.org/web/20160707184151/http://alt-usage-english.org/sitemap.html
Some of us also did private archives before the serving expired, but my
copy is incomplete because there were some dynamic pages my tools
couldn't handle. I'm not even sure what was dynamic, though I could
probably have figured it out at the time with a little research.

/dps
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does for Arnold Lund in California or Richard Rothman in Baltimore, are
the questions -- old and new, good and bad -- this newest tool lets us
ask. (R. Lerhman, CSMonitor.com)
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Post by Hen Hanna
iow.... 10 years ago, was it as common
for a nice thread to be ruined by many annoying
off-topic chatter about
trivial matters (like names for sausage)?
Jeez I can recall bantering with Areff over whether a hot dog is a
sandwich at least 10, maybe more than 15 years ago.
We even had a poster (but I've forgotten his name) who used to annoy
everyone with his quirky approach to formatting paragraphs. He is not
missed.

Most of the regulars recognised then, as now, that nothing is off-topic
provided that the discussion is intelligent and interesting.
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Newcastle, NSW, Australia
John Varela
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<snip>
Post by Hen Hanna
iow.... 10 years ago, was it as common
for a nice thread to be ruined by many annoying
off-topic chatter about
trivial matters (like names for sausage)?
Jeez I can recall bantering with Areff over whether a hot dog is a
sandwich at least 10, maybe more than 15 years ago.
We even had a poster (but I've forgotten his name) who used to annoy
everyone with his quirky approach to formatting paragraphs. He is not
missed.
Most of the regulars recognised then, as now, that nothing is off-topic
provided that the discussion is intelligent and interesting.
Only food and sheep are always on-topic. Why haven't we heard
anything about sheep lately? Surely someone from Austalia or New
Zealand can fill the gap.
--
John Varela
Peter Moylan
2018-01-16 05:42:55 UTC
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Most of the regulars recognised then, as now, that nothing is
off-topic provided that the discussion is intelligent and
interesting.
Only food and sheep are always on-topic. Why haven't we heard
anything about sheep lately? Surely someone from Austalia or New
Zealand can fill the gap.
I don't have any interesting sheep news, but today's TV news had
pictures of a kangaroo that managed to cross the Sydney Harbour Bridge,
apparently without any collisions. That shows courage. Many visitors
find driving on the Harbour Bridge scary.

Where did it come from? Nobody seems to know, but it's now been moved to
the zoo.
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Newcastle, NSW, Australia
Lewis
2018-01-16 15:35:42 UTC
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Post by Peter Moylan
Most of the regulars recognised then, as now, that nothing is
off-topic provided that the discussion is intelligent and
interesting.
Only food and sheep are always on-topic. Why haven't we heard
anything about sheep lately? Surely someone from Austalia or New
Zealand can fill the gap.
I don't have any interesting sheep news, but today's TV news had
pictures of a kangaroo that managed to cross the Sydney Harbour Bridge,
apparently without any collisions. That shows courage. Many visitors
find driving on the Harbour Bridge scary.
Where did it come from?
Australia?
--
MEGAHAL: within my penguin lies a torrid story of hate and love.
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2018-01-16 15:38:01 UTC
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Post by Peter Moylan
Most of the regulars recognised then, as now, that nothing is
off-topic provided that the discussion is intelligent and
interesting.
Only food and sheep are always on-topic. Why haven't we heard
anything about sheep lately? Surely someone from Austalia or New
Zealand can fill the gap.
I don't have any interesting sheep news, but today's TV news had
pictures of a kangaroo that managed to cross the Sydney Harbour Bridge,
apparently without any collisions. That shows courage. Many visitors
find driving on the Harbour Bridge scary.
Where did it come from?
Australia?
--
MEGAHAL: within my penguin lies a torrid story of hate and love.
Latest reports say it was a wallaby. So it could have come from
Sherwood Forest!
Richard Bollard
2018-01-17 23:27:56 UTC
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On Sun, 14 Jan 2018 12:06:14 UTC, Peter Moylan
Post by Peter Moylan
Most of the regulars recognised then, as now, that nothing is
off-topic provided that the discussion is intelligent and
interesting.
Only food and sheep are always on-topic. Why haven't we heard
anything about sheep lately? Surely someone from Austalia or New
Zealand can fill the gap.
I don't have any interesting sheep news, but today's TV news had
pictures of a kangaroo that managed to cross the Sydney Harbour Bridge,
apparently without any collisions. That shows courage. Many visitors
find driving on the Harbour Bridge scary.
Where did it come from?
Australia?
--
MEGAHAL: within my penguin lies a torrid story of hate and love.
Latest reports say it was a wallaby. So it could have come from
Sherwood Forest!
Ironically, the man who caught it was himself an ex-Wallaby.
--
Richard Bollard
Canberra Australia

To email, I'm at AMT not spAMT.
Snidely
2018-01-16 09:26:58 UTC
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<snip>
Post by Hen Hanna
iow.... 10 years ago, was it as common
for a nice thread to be ruined by many annoying
off-topic chatter about
trivial matters (like names for sausage)?
Jeez I can recall bantering with Areff over whether a hot dog is a
sandwich at least 10, maybe more than 15 years ago.
We even had a poster (but I've forgotten his name) who used to annoy
everyone with his quirky approach to formatting paragraphs. He is not
missed.
Most of the regulars recognised then, as now, that nothing is off-topic
provided that the discussion is intelligent and interesting.
Only food and sheep are always on-topic. Why haven't we heard
anything about sheep lately? Surely someone from Austalia or New
Zealand can fill the gap.
The Scots sheep have driven all the posters into the city. There will
be no more well-crofted replies.

/dps
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to 'be happy.'"
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2018-01-16 08:02:19 UTC
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We even had a poster (but I've forgotten his name) who used to annoy
everyone with his quirky approach to formatting paragraphs. He is not
missed.
I hope I'm not being whooshed here, but do you think Hen Hanna is a
reincarnation of that person?
Jerry Friedman
2018-01-16 22:46:13 UTC
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We even had a poster (but I've forgotten his name) who used to annoy
everyone with his quirky approach to formatting paragraphs. He is not
missed.
I hope I'm not being whooshed here, but do you think Hen Hanna is a
reincarnation of that person?
.no, probably not
.though I suppose it's possible that person has changed styles
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2018-01-16 23:43:27 UTC
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We even had a poster (but I've forgotten his name) who used to annoy
everyone with his quirky approach to formatting paragraphs. He is not
missed.
I hope I'm not being whooshed here, but do you think Hen Hanna is a
reincarnation of that person?
.no, probably not
.though I suppose it's possible that person has changed styles
Uh oh. Jerry's Stoned again.
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occam
2018-01-17 12:05:23 UTC
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We even had a poster (but I've forgotten his name) who used to annoy
everyone with his quirky approach to formatting paragraphs. He is not
missed.
I hope I'm not being whooshed here, but do you think Hen Hanna is a
reincarnation of that person?
.no, probably not
.though I suppose it's possible that person has changed styles
Uh oh. Jerry's Stoned again.
If that is a hint ('stone'), it is still too oblique for me. Cannot find
any posters with that name.
Jerry Friedman
2018-01-17 14:43:18 UTC
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We even had a poster (but I've forgotten his name) who used to annoy
everyone with his quirky approach to formatting paragraphs. He is not
missed.
I hope I'm not being whooshed here, but do you think Hen Hanna is a
reincarnation of that person?
.no, probably not
.though I suppose it's possible that person has changed styles
Uh oh. Jerry's Stoned again.
If that is a hint ('stone'), it is still too oblique for me. Cannot find
any posters with that name.
heron stone
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2018-01-13 01:07:06 UTC
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Would you say that AUE was more lively 10 years ago ?
How would you measure 'lively'?
There were boring and lively threads then
there are boring and lively threads now.
You won't get agreement on which is which.
Post by Hen Hanna
Did it have more ppl ?
The answer to that is yes, unfortunately,
but not by much. (whatever you want 'ppl' to mean)
I'll take it as postings per lunation.
10 years ago there were about 9000 postings/month,
nowadays only 7000. (for last november)
A very good record, given the much faster decline
in almost all other usenet groups.
And stil far too much to read it all,
actually, I'm more interested in the _quality_ of the Posts.
That's in the eye of the beholder.
Do you mind being told that your postings in this group
are not universaly admired as being of the highest _quality_ ?
(or even as improving the average quality)
I don't (wouldn't) mind being told that because
you wouldn't be meaning it.
Post by J. J. Lodder
Post by Hen Hanna
iow.... 10 years ago, was it as common
for a nice thread to be ruined by many annoying
off-topic chatter about
trivial matters (like names for sausage)?
You want electric kettles instead?
Post by Hen Hanna
* PPL is most commonly the abbreviation for people in text messages.
However, it can be used to mean: peed pants laughing or pay per lead.
** Pay per lead (PPL) is a form of cost per acquisition, with the
"acquisition" in this case being the delivery of a lead. Online and
Offline advertising payment model in which fees are charged based solely
on the delivery of leads.
From now on, in this thread, it's posts per lunation,
because I made it so,
Jan
I'm more interested in
PPPL, pertinent posts per lunation

considering how the MLs (Mailing Lists) have
died down,
AUE's general liveliness and PPPL are pretty amazing. HH


( J. J. Lodder must be a Brit )
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2018-01-13 18:21:17 UTC
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Would you say that AUE was more lively 10 years ago ?
How would you measure 'lively'?
There were boring and lively threads then
there are boring and lively threads now.
You won't get agreement on which is which.
Post by Hen Hanna
Did it have more ppl ?
The answer to that is yes, unfortunately,
but not by much. (whatever you want 'ppl' to mean)
I'll take it as postings per lunation.
10 years ago there were about 9000 postings/month,
nowadays only 7000. (for last november)
A very good record, given the much faster decline
in almost all other usenet groups.
And stil far too much to read it all,
actually, I'm more interested in the _quality_ of the Posts.
That's in the eye of the beholder.
Do you mind being told that your postings in this group
are not universaly admired as being of the highest _quality_ ?
(or even as improving the average quality)
I don't (wouldn't) mind being told that because
you wouldn't be meaning it.
Post by J. J. Lodder
Post by Hen Hanna
iow.... 10 years ago, was it as common
for a nice thread to be ruined by many annoying
off-topic chatter about
trivial matters (like names for sausage)?
You want electric kettles instead?
Post by Hen Hanna
* PPL is most commonly the abbreviation for people in text messages.
However, it can be used to mean: peed pants laughing or pay per lead.
** Pay per lead (PPL) is a form of cost per acquisition, with the
"acquisition" in this case being the delivery of a lead. Online and
Offline advertising payment model in which fees are charged based solely
on the delivery of leads.
From now on, in this thread, it's posts per lunation,
because I made it so,
Jan
I'm more interested in
PPPL, pertinent posts per lunation
considering how the MLs (Mailing Lists) have
died down,
AUE's general liveliness and PPPL are pretty amazing. HH
( J. J. Lodder must be a Brit )
Ah, found out at last! How did you find out? Where did I slip up?
What was the decisive clue that got you there?

Jan
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2018-01-14 02:16:42 UTC
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Ah, found out at last! How did you find out? Where did I slip up?
What was the decisive clue that got you there?
Jan
just a guess.
i've been wondering why female Brit authors
tend to use nyms like
A.S.Byatt, P.D.James, J.K.Rowling ...


(when the OP adds a new topic, it's not a "dilution"
or "corrution" or "hijacking" of a thread.)


When was Rob Lieblich seen here last ? HH
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When was Rob Lieblich seen here last ? HH
Bob Lieblich died in 2105.
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When was Rob Lieblich seen here last ? HH
Bob Lieblich died in 2105.
<*cue eerie music*>
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In article <p3eg7e$454$***@news.albasani.net>, ***@yahoo.com
says...
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When was Rob Lieblich seen here last ? HH
Bob Lieblich died in 2105.
He must be a very premature baby.

Janet
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When was Rob Lieblich seen here last ? HH
Bob Lieblich died in 2105.
He must be a very premature baby.
Certainly a premature 1.
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Ah, found out at last! How did you find out? Where did I slip up?
What was the decisive clue that got you there?
Jan
just a guess.
i've been wondering why female Brit authors
tend to use nyms like
A.S.Byatt, P.D.James, J.K.Rowling ...
All real names and initials, except for the Byatt part.
And Byatt had a good reason, with 'Drabble' already in use
by her sister Margaret.
Post by Hen Hanna
(when the OP adds a new topic, it's not a "dilution"
or "corrution" or "hijacking" of a thread.)
When was Rob Lieblich seen here last ? HH
Never. As for Bob, his last posting here was on 24 September 2011,

Jan
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Ah, found out at last! How did you find out? Where did I slip up?
What was the decisive clue that got you there?
Jan
just a guess.
i've been wondering why female Brit authors
tend to use nyms like
A.S.Byatt, P.D.James, J.K.Rowling ...
What, unlike male Brit authors such as H.G. Wells and
J.R.R. Tolkien, or American authors like R.L. Stine and
S.E. Hinton, you mean?
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Ah, found out at last! How did you find out? Where did I slip up?
What was the decisive clue that got you there?
Jan
so this was sort-of a secret ?
did i hit upon a secret ansewr? -- like that
[secret word] in Groucho's TV show?

how long did it take for this to come out?
Post by Madrigal Gurneyhalt
Post by Hen Hanna
just a guess.
i've been wondering why female Brit authors
tend to use nyms like
A.S.Byatt, P.D.James, J.K.Rowling ...
What, unlike male Brit authors such as H.G. Wells and
J.R.R. Tolkien, or American authors like R.L. Stine and
S.E. Hinton, you mean?
i still think it's more common among Brit authors
and esp female Brit authors.

HH
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2018-01-14 19:48:07 UTC
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( J. J. Lodder must be a Brit )
Ah, found out at last! How did you find out? Where did I slip up?
What was the decisive clue that got you there?
so this was sort-of a secret ?
did i hit upon a secret ansewr? -- like that
[secret word] in Groucho's TV show?
how long did it take for this to come out?
No, that was a sarcastic reply by Jan, who is Dutch, has a Dutch name and
frequently posts on Dutch language and societal issues. He is not fond of
things British or American, and how you could have missed that
and assumed he was British is a source of wonder for me and, I'm sure,
for many others.
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Post by Madrigal Gurneyhalt
Post by Hen Hanna
just a guess.
i've been wondering why female Brit authors
tend to use nyms like
A.S.Byatt, P.D.James, J.K.Rowling ...
What, unlike male Brit authors such as H.G. Wells and
J.R.R. Tolkien, or American authors like R.L. Stine and
S.E. Hinton, you mean?
i still think it's more common among Brit authors
and esp female Brit authors.
I see no basis for that opinion.

bill
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2018-01-14 20:22:57 UTC
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( J. J. Lodder must be a Brit )
Ah, found out at last! How did you find out? Where did I slip up?
What was the decisive clue that got you there?
so this was sort-of a secret ?
did i hit upon a secret ansewr? -- like that
[secret word] in Groucho's TV show?
[You bet your life] was the show.

Didn't Letterman have the [secret word] thing sometimes?



[dramatic irony] is defined as ........... HH




Madrigal Gurneyhalt is also Dutch?
does he speak Chinese ?
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Ah, found out at last! How did you find out? Where did I slip up?
What was the decisive clue that got you there?
it was just a guess....

Jerks tend to be men (except for Jenny)
Post by b***@shaw.ca
I see no basis for that opinion.
(without giving any basis for that opinion).


also, (white) Americans tend to be blunt and rude,
Post by b***@shaw.ca
Why start a new thread?
Your PPmPL (Pertinent Points -made Per Line)
is higher than most,
which suggested
that you must be either female,
or non-American.
Post by b***@shaw.ca
Post by Hen Hanna
so this was sort-of a secret ?
did i hit upon a secret ansewr? -- like that
[secret word] in Groucho's TV show?
[You bet your life] was the show.
Didn't Letterman have the [secret word] thing sometimes?
[dramatic irony] is defined as ........... HH
Madrigal Gurneyhalt is also Dutch?
does he speak Chinese ?
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( J. J. Lodder must be a Brit )
Ah, found out at last! How did you find out? Where did I slip up?
What was the decisive clue that got you there?
it was just a guess....
Jerks tend to be men (except for Jenny)
Post by b***@shaw.ca
I see no basis for that opinion.
(without giving any basis for that opinion).
also, (white) Americans tend to be blunt and rude,
Post by b***@shaw.ca
Why start a new thread?
Your PPmPL (Pertinent Points -made Per Line)
is higher than most,
which suggested
that you must be either female,
or non-American.
Why can't I be twice blessed?

Jan
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did i hit upon a secret ansewr? -- like that
[secret word] in Groucho's TV show?
[You bet your life] was the show.
Didn't Letterman have the [secret word] thing sometimes?
Not in the last 20 or so years of the CBS Late Show.
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( J. J. Lodder must be a Brit )
Ah, found out at last! How did you find out? Where did I slip up?
What was the decisive clue that got you there?
so this was sort-of a secret ?
did i hit upon a secret ansewr? -- like that
[secret word] in Groucho's TV show?
how long did it take for this to come out?
No, that was a sarcastic reply by Jan, who is Dutch, has a Dutch name and
frequently posts on Dutch language and societal issues. He is not fond of
things British or American,
True, but his lack of fondness extends beyond that.
Post by b***@shaw.ca
and how you could have missed that
and assumed he was British is a source of wonder for me and, I'm sure,
for many others.
For me, certainly. I almost fell off my chair when I read that. I
wonder if she thinks PTD is British.
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Post by Hen Hanna
Post by Madrigal Gurneyhalt
Post by Hen Hanna
just a guess.
i've been wondering why female Brit authors
tend to use nyms like
A.S.Byatt, P.D.James, J.K.Rowling ...
What, unlike male Brit authors such as H.G. Wells and
J.R.R. Tolkien, or American authors like R.L. Stine and
S.E. Hinton, you mean?
i still think it's more common among Brit authors
and esp female Brit authors.
I see no basis for that opinion.
Nor do I.
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( J. J. Lodder must be a Brit )
Ah, found out at last! How did you find out? Where did I slip up?
What was the decisive clue that got you there?
so this was sort-of a secret ?
did i hit upon a secret ansewr? -- like that
[secret word] in Groucho's TV show?
how long did it take for this to come out?
No, that was a sarcastic reply by Jan, who is Dutch, has a Dutch name and
frequently posts on Dutch language and societal issues. He is not fond of
things British or American,
True, but his lack of fondness extends beyond that.
Post by b***@shaw.ca
and how you could have missed that
and assumed he was British is a source of wonder for me and, I'm sure,
for many others.
For me, certainly. I almost fell off my chair when I read that. I
wonder if she thinks PTD is British.
Colonel Burke assumed I was British.
Athel Cornish-Bowden
2018-01-13 06:52:42 UTC
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Would you say that AUE was more lively 10 years ago ?
How would you measure 'lively'?
There were boring and lively threads then
there are boring and lively threads now.
You won't get agreement on which is which.
Post by Hen Hanna
Did it have more ppl ?
The answer to that is yes, unfortunately,
but not by much. (whatever you want 'ppl' to mean)
I'll take it as postings per lunation.
10 years ago there were about 9000 postings/month,
nowadays only 7000. (for last november)
A very good record, given the much faster decline
in almost all other usenet groups.
And stil far too much to read it all,
actually, I'm more interested in the _quality_ of the Posts.
That's in the eye of the beholder.
Do you mind being told that your postings in this group
are not universaly admired as being of the highest _quality_ ?
(or even as improving the average quality)
Does _anyone_ admire Hen Hanna's posts? It would be easier to find
someone who admired PTD's posts.
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iow....
Isle of Wight?
Post by J. J. Lodder
Post by Hen Hanna
10 years ago, was it as common
for a nice thread to be ruined by many annoying
off-topic chatter about
trivial matters (like names for sausage)?
You want electric kettles instead?
Post by Hen Hanna
* PPL is most commonly the abbreviation for people in text messages.
Yes, but this is a group about English usage, not a compilation of
messages sent from a telephone to one's best friend. Many of us like
posts to be written in English.
Post by J. J. Lodder
Post by Hen Hanna
However, it can be used to mean: peed pants laughing or pay per lead.
** Pay per lead (PPL) is a form of cost per acquisition, with the
"acquisition" in this case being the delivery of a lead. Online and
Offline advertising payment model in which fees are charged based solely
on the delivery of leads.
From now on, in this thread, it's posts per lunation,
because I made it so,
OK, now I understand what "ppl" is supposed to mean.
--
athel
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2018-01-13 11:24:51 UTC
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Would you say that AUE was more lively 10 years ago ?
How would you measure 'lively'?
There were boring and lively threads then
there are boring and lively threads now.
You won't get agreement on which is which.
Post by Hen Hanna
Did it have more ppl ?
The answer to that is yes, unfortunately,
but not by much. (whatever you want 'ppl' to mean)
I'll take it as postings per lunation.
10 years ago there were about 9000 postings/month,
nowadays only 7000. (for last november)
A very good record, given the much faster decline
in almost all other usenet groups.
And stil far too much to read it all,
actually, I'm more interested in the _quality_ of the Posts.
That's in the eye of the beholder.
Do you mind being told that your postings in this group
are not universaly admired as being of the highest _quality_ ?
(or even as improving the average quality)
Does _anyone_ admire Hen Hanna's posts? It would be easier to find
someone who admired PTD's posts.
Her Great Henness herself of course,
and who are we to doubt her?

Jan
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Would you say that AUE was more lively 10 years ago ?
How would you measure 'lively'?
There were boring and lively threads then
there are boring and lively threads now.
You won't get agreement on which is which.
Post by Hen Hanna
Did it have more ppl ?
The answer to that is yes, unfortunately,
but not by much. (whatever you want 'ppl' to mean)
I'll take it as postings per lunation.
10 years ago there were about 9000 postings/month,
nowadays only 7000. (for last november)
A very good record, given the much faster decline
in almost all other usenet groups.
And stil far too much to read it all,
actually, I'm more interested in the _quality_ of the Posts.
That's in the eye of the beholder.
Do you mind being told that your postings in this group
are not universaly admired as being of the highest _quality_ ?
(or even as improving the average quality)
Does _anyone_ admire Hen Hanna's posts? It would be easier to find
someone who admired PTD's posts.
Her Great Henness herself of course,
and who are we to doubt her?
'His', apparently. Hen for Henry.
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2018-01-16 10:49:03 UTC
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Would you say that AUE was more lively 10 years ago ?
How would you measure 'lively'?
There were boring and lively threads then
there are boring and lively threads now.
You won't get agreement on which is which.
Post by Hen Hanna
Did it have more ppl ?
The answer to that is yes, unfortunately,
but not by much. (whatever you want 'ppl' to mean)
I'll take it as postings per lunation.
10 years ago there were about 9000 postings/month,
nowadays only 7000. (for last november)
A very good record, given the much faster decline
in almost all other usenet groups.
And stil far too much to read it all,
actually, I'm more interested in the _quality_ of the Posts.
That's in the eye of the beholder.
Do you mind being told that your postings in this group
are not universaly admired as being of the highest _quality_ ?
(or even as improving the average quality)
Does _anyone_ admire Hen Hanna's posts? It would be easier to find
someone who admired PTD's posts.
Her Great Henness herself of course,
and who are we to doubt her?
'His', apparently. Hen for Henry.
Why believe anything her Henness clucks?

Jan
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2018-01-19 00:33:29 UTC
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Would you say that AUE was more lively 10 years ago ?
How would you measure 'lively'?
There were boring and lively threads then
there are boring and lively threads now.
You won't get agreement on which is which.
Post by Hen Hanna
Did it have more ppl ?
The answer to that is yes, unfortunately,
but not by much. (whatever you want 'ppl' to mean)
I'll take it as postings per lunation.
10 years ago there were about 9000 postings/month,
nowadays only 7000. (for last november)
A very good record, given the much faster decline
in almost all other usenet groups.
And stil far too much to read it all,
actually, I'm more interested in the _quality_ of the Posts.
That's in the eye of the beholder.
Do you mind being told that your postings in this group
are not universaly admired as being of the highest _quality_ ?
(or even as improving the average quality)
Does _anyone_ admire Hen Hanna's posts? It would be easier to find
someone who admired PTD's posts.
Her Great Henness herself of course,
and who are we to doubt her?
'His', apparently. Hen for Henry.
Why believe anything her Henness clucks?
I think we're expected to deduce the facts of Hen Hanna's existence, in
much the same way that your Britishness was exposed.

I envisage a red-haired, left-handed Irishman who smokes turkish
cigarettes and has a clumsy parlourmaid (judging by those nasty scrapes
on the sides of his boots).
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Would you say that AUE was more lively 10 years ago ?
How would you measure 'lively'?
There were boring and lively threads then
there are boring and lively threads now.
You won't get agreement on which is which.
Post by Hen Hanna
Did it have more ppl ?
The answer to that is yes, unfortunately,
but not by much. (whatever you want 'ppl' to mean)
I'll take it as postings per lunation.
10 years ago there were about 9000 postings/month,
nowadays only 7000. (for last november)
A very good record, given the much faster decline
in almost all other usenet groups.
And stil far too much to read it all,
actually, I'm more interested in the _quality_ of the Posts.
That's in the eye of the beholder.
Do you mind being told that your postings in this group
are not universaly admired as being of the highest _quality_ ?
(or even as improving the average quality)
Does _anyone_ admire Hen Hanna's posts? It would be easier to find
someone who admired PTD's posts.
Her Great Henness herself of course,
and who are we to doubt her?
'His', apparently. Hen for Henry.
Why believe anything her Henness clucks?
I think we're expected to deduce the facts of Hen Hanna's existence, in
much the same way that your Britishness was exposed.
I envisage a red-haired, left-handed Irishman who smokes turkish
cigarettes and has a clumsy parlourmaid (judging by those nasty scrapes
on the sides of his boots).
We must all thank you fro the bottom of our hearts
for exposing the truth about The HenThing.

I'll adapt the quoting style, if another occasion arises,

Jan
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2018-01-19 13:05:15 UTC
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Would you say that AUE was more lively 10 years ago
?
How would you measure 'lively'? There were boring and
lively threads then there are boring and lively threads
now. You won't get agreement on which is which.
Post by Hen Hanna
Did it have more ppl ?
The answer to that is yes, unfortunately, but not by
much. (whatever you want 'ppl' to mean) I'll take it as
postings per lunation.
10 years ago there were about 9000 postings/month,
nowadays only 7000. (for last november) A very good
record, given the much faster decline in almost all
other usenet groups.
And stil far too much to read it all,
actually, I'm more interested in the _quality_ of the
Posts.
That's in the eye of the beholder. Do you mind being told
that your postings in this group are not universaly admired
as being of the highest _quality_ ? (or even as improving
the average quality)
Does _anyone_ admire Hen Hanna's posts? It would be easier to
find someone who admired PTD's posts.
Her Great Henness herself of course, and who are we to doubt
her?
'His', apparently. Hen for Henry.
Why believe anything her Henness clucks?
I think we're expected to deduce the facts of Hen Hanna's existence,
in much the same way that your Britishness was exposed.
I envisage a red-haired, left-handed Irishman who smokes turkish
cigarettes and has a clumsy parlourmaid (judging by those nasty
scrapes on the sides of his boots).
I noticed the other day that they was setting a puzzle for the group.
That is an annoying* habit of the other HH, who is Known to the
Committee** on other grounds.

*OK, it annoys me.
** Or so I surmise.
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2018-01-13 14:34:47 UTC
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Does _anyone_ admire Hen Hanna's posts? It would be easier to find
someone who admired PTD's posts.
No one admires them who is afraid to read them.
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iow....
Isle of Wight?
In other words, ignoramus.
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2018-01-13 18:21:18 UTC
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Does _anyone_ admire Hen Hanna's posts? It would be easier to find
someone who admired PTD's posts.
No one admires them who is afraid to read them.
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iow....
Isle of Wight?
In other words, ignoramus.
Indeed,
<http://www.bbc.com/news/uk-england-hampshire-39814368>

Jan
Athel Cornish-Bowden
2018-01-14 06:27:49 UTC
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Does _anyone_ admire Hen Hanna's posts? It would be easier to find
someone who admired PTD's posts.
No one admires them who is afraid to read them.
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iow....
Isle of Wight?
In other words, ignoramus.
Silly litle man. Did the 600-ppl fool really think I couldn't guess
what Hen Hanna meant by "iow"? I expect Jan was able to guess what she
meant by "ppl".
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Indeed,
<http://www.bbc.com/news/uk-england-hampshire-39814368>
Jan
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athel
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2018-01-14 16:37:36 UTC
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Does _anyone_ admire Hen Hanna's posts? It would be easier to find
someone who admired PTD's posts.
No one admires them who is afraid to read them.
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iow....
Isle of Wight?
In other words, ignoramus.
Silly litle man. Did the 600-ppl fool really think I couldn't guess
what Hen Hanna meant by "iow"? I expect Jan was able to guess what she
meant by "ppl".
The ignoramus still thinks that Hen Hanna is female, so anything is possible.
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2018-01-16 07:39:14 UTC
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actually, I'm more interested in the _quality_ of the Posts.
That's in the eye of the beholder.
Do you mind being told that your postings in this group
are not universally admired as being of the highest _quality_ ?
(or even as improving the average quality)
This reminds me of an old joke. Here is the variant:

"When Hen Hanna started posting in AUE instead of AEU, the average
quality of posts in both newsgroups dropped noticeably."

Sorry Hen, I'm not a fan of the clucking format of your posts. And I am
sure I'm not the only one here.
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actually, I'm more interested in the _quality_ of the Posts.
That's in the eye of the beholder.
Do you mind being told that your postings in this group
are not universally admired as being of the highest _quality_ ?
(or even as improving the average quality)
"When Hen Hanna started posting in AUE instead of AEU, the average
quality of posts in both newsgroups dropped noticeably."
Sorry Hen, I'm not a fan of the clucking format of your posts. And I am
sure I'm not the only one here.
A rip of a very old Belgian joke,

Jan
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2018-01-16 11:44:39 UTC
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actually, I'm more interested in the _quality_ of the Posts.
That's in the eye of the beholder.
Do you mind being told that your postings in this group
are not universally admired as being of the highest _quality_ ?
(or even as improving the average quality)
"When Hen Hanna started posting in AUE instead of AEU, the average
quality of posts in both newsgroups dropped noticeably."
Sorry Hen, I'm not a fan of the clucking format of your posts. And I am
sure I'm not the only one here.
A rip of a very old Belgian joke,
Did the Belgian joke involve IQ and emigration of Belgians to the
Netherlands? Because the version I know involved Irishmen and their move
to the UK.
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2018-01-16 13:42:14 UTC
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actually, I'm more interested in the _quality_ of the Posts.
That's in the eye of the beholder.
Do you mind being told that your postings in this group
are not universally admired as being of the highest _quality_ ?
(or even as improving the average quality)
"When Hen Hanna started posting in AUE instead of AEU, the average
quality of posts in both newsgroups dropped noticeably."
Sorry Hen, I'm not a fan of the clucking format of your posts. And I am
sure I'm not the only one here.
A rip of a very old Belgian joke,
Did the Belgian joke involve IQ and emigration of Belgians to the
Netherlands? Because the version I know involved Irishmen and their move
to the UK.
Q: The other way round. What happens when a 'Brabander'
(an inhabitant of the southern part of the Netherlands)
emigrates to Belgium?
A: The average IQ rises on both sides of the border.

Some Scotsman could try it with Englishmen and Irish,

Jan
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2018-01-16 16:21:42 UTC
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actually, I'm more interested in the _quality_ of the Posts.
That's in the eye of the beholder.
Do you mind being told that your postings in this group
are not universally admired as being of the highest _quality_ ?
(or even as improving the average quality)
"When Hen Hanna started posting in AUE instead of AEU, the average
quality of posts in both newsgroups dropped noticeably."
Sorry Hen, I'm not a fan of the clucking format of your posts. And I am
sure I'm not the only one here.
A rip of a very old Belgian joke,
Did the Belgian joke involve IQ and emigration of Belgians to the
Netherlands? Because the version I know involved Irishmen and their move
to the UK.
+1
--
athel
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actually, I'm more interested in the _quality_ of the Posts.
That's in the eye of the beholder.
Do you mind being told that your postings in this group
are not universally admired as being of the highest _quality_ ?
(or even as improving the average quality)
"When Hen Hanna started posting in AUE instead of AEU, the average
quality of posts in both newsgroups dropped noticeably."
Sorry Hen, I'm not a fan of the clucking format of your posts. And I am
sure I'm not the only one here.
A rip of a very old Belgian joke,
Did the Belgian joke involve IQ and emigration of Belgians to the
Netherlands? Because the version I know involved Irishmen and their move
to the UK.
+1
The Belgians have retaliated by translating all the Scotsman jokes
and applying them to the 'Ollanders,

Jan

(about the invention of copper wire and so on)
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2018-01-18 02:37:30 UTC
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actually, I'm more interested in the _quality_ of the Posts.
That's in the eye of the beholder.
Do you mind being told that your postings in this group
are not universally admired as being of the highest _quality_ ?
(or even as improving the average quality)
"When Hen Hanna started posting in AUE instead of AEU, the average
quality of posts in both newsgroups dropped noticeably."
Sorry Hen, I'm not a fan of the clucking format of your posts. And I am
sure I'm not the only one here.
A rip of a very old Belgian joke,
Did the Belgian joke involve IQ and emigration of Belgians to the
Netherlands? Because the version I know involved Irishmen and their move
to the UK.
I know it as someone moving from Philadelphia to New Jersey.
--
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2018-01-18 12:23:49 UTC
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actually, I'm more interested in the _quality_ of the Posts.
That's in the eye of the beholder.
Do you mind being told that your postings in this group
are not universally admired as being of the highest _quality_ ?
(or even as improving the average quality)
"When Hen Hanna started posting in AUE instead of AEU, the average
quality of posts in both newsgroups dropped noticeably."
Sorry Hen, I'm not a fan of the clucking format of your posts. And I am
sure I'm not the only one here.
A rip of a very old Belgian joke,
Did the Belgian joke involve IQ and emigration of Belgians to the
Netherlands? Because the version I know involved Irishmen and their move
to the UK.
Within Ireland it might be someone moving from County Kerry to Dublin.

http://www.fionasplace.net/irishjokes/Kerrymanjokes.html

When the world makes fun of Irish men and tell Irish men jokes did
you ever wonder who the Irish told jokes about? Well wonder no
more! We tell jokes about those Irishmen who come from County
Kerry......Kerryman jokes! Here is a selection therefore of the
silly kerryman jokes that abound in Ireland.

Just a few of them:

How would you get a Kerryman to climb on the roof of a pub?
Tell him the drinks are on the house!

How do you keep a Kerryman happy for an afternoon?
Write P.T.O on both sides of a piece of paper.

A kerryman, who had fallen into a lot of money [1], went to the Dr
with an injured leg.
"That looks nasty",said the Dr,"I'd better give you a local
anaesthetic".
"Hang the expense", said the Kerryman, "I'll have the imported one!"

[1] "fallen into a lot of money" means "had become better off
financially". He had not injured his leg by falling into a pile of
money. ;-) (But you never kow with a Kerryman.)
--
Peter Duncanson, UK
(in alt.usage.english)
Athel Cornish-Bowden
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Post by J. J. Lodder
Post by Hen Hanna
actually, I'm more interested in the _quality_ of the Posts.
That's in the eye of the beholder.
Do you mind being told that your postings in this group
are not universally admired as being of the highest _quality_ ?
(or even as improving the average quality)
"When Hen Hanna started posting in AUE instead of AEU, the average
quality of posts in both newsgroups dropped noticeably."
Sorry Hen, I'm not a fan of the clucking format of your posts. And I am
sure I'm not the only one here.
A rip of a very old Belgian joke,
Did the Belgian joke involve IQ and emigration of Belgians to the
Netherlands? Because the version I know involved Irishmen and their move
to the UK.
Within Ireland it might be someone moving from County Kerry to Dublin.
http://www.fionasplace.net/irishjokes/Kerrymanjokes.html
When the world makes fun of Irish men and tell Irish men jokes did
you ever wonder who the Irish told jokes about? Well wonder no
more! We tell jokes about those Irishmen who come from County
Kerry......Kerryman jokes! Here is a selection therefore of the
silly kerryman jokes that abound in Ireland.
How would you get a Kerryman to climb on the roof of a pub?
Tell him the drinks are on the house!
How do you keep a Kerryman happy for an afternoon?
Write P.T.O on both sides of a piece of paper.
I heard a similar one in Toronto as a Newfie joke (sorry Cheryl). A
group of labourers from Newfoundland were laying turf, and every so
often the foreman shouted "Green side up".
Post by Peter Duncanson [BrE]
A kerryman, who had fallen into a lot of money [1], went to the Dr
with an injured leg.
"That looks nasty",said the Dr,"I'd better give you a local
anaesthetic".
"Hang the expense", said the Kerryman, "I'll have the imported one!"
[1] "fallen into a lot of money" means "had become better off
financially". He had not injured his leg by falling into a pile of
money. ;-) (But you never kow with a Kerryman.)
--
athel
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Post by Jenny Telia
Post by J. J. Lodder
Post by Hen Hanna
actually, I'm more interested in the _quality_ of the Posts.
That's in the eye of the beholder.
Do you mind being told that your postings in this group
are not universally admired as being of the highest _quality_ ?
(or even as improving the average quality)
"When Hen Hanna started posting in AUE instead of AEU, the average
quality of posts in both newsgroups dropped noticeably."
Sorry Hen, I'm not a fan of the clucking format of your posts. And I am
sure I'm not the only one here.
A rip of a very old Belgian joke,
Did the Belgian joke involve IQ and emigration of Belgians to the
Netherlands? Because the version I know involved Irishmen and their move
to the UK.
Within Ireland it might be someone moving from County Kerry to Dublin.
http://www.fionasplace.net/irishjokes/Kerrymanjokes.html
When the world makes fun of Irish men and tell Irish men jokes did
you ever wonder who the Irish told jokes about? Well wonder no
more! We tell jokes about those Irishmen who come from County
Kerry......Kerryman jokes! Here is a selection therefore of the
silly kerryman jokes that abound in Ireland.
How would you get a Kerryman to climb on the roof of a pub?
Tell him the drinks are on the house!
How do you keep a Kerryman happy for an afternoon?
Write P.T.O on both sides of a piece of paper.
I heard a similar one in Toronto as a Newfie joke (sorry Cheryl). A
group of labourers from Newfoundland were laying turf, and every so
often the foreman shouted "Green side up".
Post by Peter Duncanson [BrE]
A kerryman, who had fallen into a lot of money [1], went to the Dr
with an injured leg.
"That looks nasty",said the Dr,"I'd better give you a local
anaesthetic".
"Hang the expense", said the Kerryman, "I'll have the imported one!"
[1] "fallen into a lot of money" means "had become better off
financially". He had not injured his leg by falling into a pile of
money. ;-) (But you never kow with a Kerryman.)
I hope it was told better than that!
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2018-01-18 18:49:02 UTC
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On Thu, 18 Jan 2018 14:05:04 UTC, Athel Cornish-Bowden
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On 2018-01-18 13:23:49 +0100, "Peter Duncanson [BrE]"
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actually, I'm more interested in the _quality_ of the Posts.
That's in the eye of the beholder.
Do you mind being told that your postings in this group
are not universally admired as being of the highest _quality_ ?
(or even as improving the average quality)
"When Hen Hanna started posting in AUE instead of AEU, the average
quality of posts in both newsgroups dropped noticeably."
Sorry Hen, I'm not a fan of the clucking format of your posts. And I am
sure I'm not the only one here.
A rip of a very old Belgian joke,
Did the Belgian joke involve IQ and emigration of Belgians to the
Netherlands? Because the version I know involved Irishmen and their move
to the UK.
Within Ireland it might be someone moving from County Kerry to Dublin.
http://www.fionasplace.net/irishjokes/Kerrymanjokes.html
When the world makes fun of Irish men and tell Irish men jokes did
you ever wonder who the Irish told jokes about? Well wonder no
more! We tell jokes about those Irishmen who come from County
Kerry......Kerryman jokes! Here is a selection therefore of the
silly kerryman jokes that abound in Ireland.
In southern Louisiana the jokes are about Cajuns, and two characters
named Boudreaux and Thibodeaux, who speak in dialect. Examples at:

http://cajunguy20.tripod.com/jokepage4.html
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How would you get a Kerryman to climb on the roof of a pub?
Tell him the drinks are on the house!
How do you keep a Kerryman happy for an afternoon?
Write P.T.O on both sides of a piece of paper.
I heard a similar one in Toronto as a Newfie joke (sorry Cheryl). A
group of labourers from Newfoundland were laying turf, and every so
often the foreman shouted "Green side up".
I heard Green Side Up as an Italian joke.
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A kerryman, who had fallen into a lot of money [1], went to the Dr
with an injured leg.
"That looks nasty",said the Dr,"I'd better give you a local
anaesthetic".
"Hang the expense", said the Kerryman, "I'll have the imported one!"
The same thing is told about a [fill in the blank] refusing to allow
artificial respiration for his loved one because he will pay for the
real thing.
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2018-01-18 21:01:29 UTC
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On Thu, 18 Jan 2018 14:05:04 UTC, Athel Cornish-Bowden
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I heard a similar one in Toronto as a Newfie joke (sorry Cheryl). A
group of labourers from Newfoundland were laying turf, and every so
often the foreman shouted "Green side up".
I heard Green Side Up as an Italian joke.
Mexican ("wetback" laborer) joke in these parts....r
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2018-01-18 21:17:57 UTC
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I heard a similar one in Toronto as a Newfie joke (sorry Cheryl). A
group of labourers from Newfoundland were laying turf, and every so
often the foreman shouted "Green side up".
I heard Green Side Up as an Italian joke.
Mexican ("wetback" laborer) joke in these parts....r
There's a green side of turf in your area?

/dps
Peter T. Daniels
2018-01-19 04:16:18 UTC
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I heard a similar one in Toronto as a Newfie joke (sorry Cheryl). A
group of labourers from Newfoundland were laying turf, and every so
often the foreman shouted "Green side up".
I heard Green Side Up as an Italian joke.
Mexican ("wetback" laborer) joke in these parts....r
There's a green side of turf in your area?
("Turf" seems to be BrE for "sod.") Maybe they had to rename it. Because sod.
charles
2018-01-19 06:04:55 UTC
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I heard a similar one in Toronto as a Newfie joke (sorry Cheryl).
A group of labourers from Newfoundland were laying turf, and every
so often the foreman shouted "Green side up".
I heard Green Side Up as an Italian joke.
Mexican ("wetback" laborer) joke in these parts....r
There's a green side of turf in your area?
("Turf" seems to be BrE for "sod.") Maybe they had to rename it. Because
sod
had a law?
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from KT24 in Surrey, England
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2018-01-19 07:33:20 UTC
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I heard a similar one in Toronto as a Newfie joke (sorry Cheryl).
A group of labourers from Newfoundland were laying turf, and every
so often the foreman shouted "Green side up".
I heard Green Side Up as an Italian joke.
Mexican ("wetback" laborer) joke in these parts....r
There's a green side of turf in your area?
("Turf" seems to be BrE for "sod.") Maybe they had to rename it. Because
sod
Maybe if the silly little man consults a dictionary he'll find that he
can replace "seems to be" with something more definite.
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had a law?
--
athel
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2018-01-19 07:53:33 UTC
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I heard a similar one in Toronto as a Newfie joke (sorry Cheryl).
A group of labourers from Newfoundland were laying turf, and every
so often the foreman shouted "Green side up".
I heard Green Side Up as an Italian joke.
Mexican ("wetback" laborer) joke in these parts....r
There's a green side of turf in your area?
("Turf" seems to be BrE for "sod.") Maybe they had to rename it. Because
sod
Maybe if the silly little man consults a dictionary he'll find that he can
replace "seems to be" with something more definite.
"the" or "ye"?

D we really want to get out the browser and surf for turf?
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had a law?
Burke's Law didn't show much turf, but the Rolls was gold.

/dps
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_Roughing It_, Mark Twain
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2018-01-19 11:41:39 UTC
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On Thu, 18 Jan 2018 20:16:18 -0800 (PST), "Peter T. Daniels"
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I heard a similar one in Toronto as a Newfie joke (sorry Cheryl). A
group of labourers from Newfoundland were laying turf, and every so
often the foreman shouted "Green side up".
I heard Green Side Up as an Italian joke.
Mexican ("wetback" laborer) joke in these parts....r
There's a green side of turf in your area?
("Turf" seems to be BrE for "sod.") Maybe they had to rename it. Because sod.
In BrE "turf" is an area of ground covered by grass or grass covering an
area of ground, whichever way you wish to think of it.
It is also used for a piece of turf cut from the ground.

A "sod" is a piece of turf not an grassy area.
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Peter Duncanson, UK
(in alt.usage.english)
musika
2018-01-19 11:53:36 UTC
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In BrE "turf" is an area of ground covered by grass or grass covering an
area of ground, whichever way you wish to think of it.
It is also used for a piece of turf cut from the ground.
A "sod" is a piece of turf not an grassy area.
Do they have Sod Accountants, I wonder?
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Ray
UK
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2018-01-19 13:20:44 UTC
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In BrE "turf" is an area of ground covered by grass or grass covering an
area of ground, whichever way you wish to think of it.
It is also used for a piece of turf cut from the ground.
A "sod" is a piece of turf not an grassy area.
Do they have Sod Accountants, I wonder?
No, nor do the gangs have Sod Wars.
musika
2018-01-19 13:24:32 UTC
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In BrE "turf" is an area of ground covered by grass or grass covering an
area of ground, whichever way you wish to think of it.
It is also used for a piece of turf cut from the ground.
A "sod" is a piece of turf not an grassy area.
Do they have Sod Accountants, I wonder?
No, nor do the gangs have Sod Wars.
In a manor of speaking.
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Ray
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2018-01-19 13:24:42 UTC
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In BrE "turf" is an area of ground covered by grass or grass covering an
area of ground, whichever way you wish to think of it.
It is also used for a piece of turf cut from the ground.
A "sod" is a piece of turf not an grassy area.
Do they have Sod Accountants, I wonder?
No, nor do the gangs have Sod Wars.
But some of them have sod all.
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CanEng (30yrs) and BrEng (34yrs), indiscriminately mixed
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2018-01-19 12:29:32 UTC
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On Thu, 18 Jan 2018 20:16:18 -0800 (PST), "Peter T. Daniels"
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I heard a similar one in Toronto as a Newfie joke (sorry Cheryl). A
group of labourers from Newfoundland were laying turf, and every so
often the foreman shouted "Green side up".
I heard Green Side Up as an Italian joke.
Mexican ("wetback" laborer) joke in these parts....r
There's a green side of turf in your area?
("Turf" seems to be BrE for "sod.") Maybe they had to rename it. Because sod.
In BrE "turf" is an area of ground covered by grass or grass covering an
area of ground, whichever way you wish to think of it.
It is also used for a piece of turf cut from the ground.
A "sod" is a piece of turf not an grassy area.
--
I think you'll find it's a lot less complicated than that ...

turf> a sod of grass
sod> a piece of turf

Given this group's propensity for making distinctions where
there are none, this will no doubt drag on for another 100
posts descending further and further into personal abuse,
dem's just the facts, ma'am!
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2018-01-19 11:52:54 UTC
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I heard a similar one in Toronto as a Newfie joke (sorry Cheryl). A
group of labourers from Newfoundland were laying turf, and every so
often the foreman shouted "Green side up".
I heard Green Side Up as an Italian joke.
Mexican ("wetback" laborer) joke in these parts....r
There's a green side of turf in your area?
Yeah...on golf courses....r
CDB
2018-01-19 13:06:51 UTC
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I heard a similar one in Toronto as a Newfie joke (sorry Cheryl).
A group of labourers from Newfoundland were laying turf, and
every so often the foreman shouted "Green side up".
I heard Green Side Up as an Italian joke.
Mexican ("wetback" laborer) joke in these parts....r
Only the accent changes. What do they print on the bottoms of coke
bottles at Yale?

"OPEN OTHER END".
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2018-01-18 21:58:46 UTC
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Did the Belgian joke involve IQ and emigration of Belgians to the
Netherlands? Because the version I know involved Irishmen and their move
to the UK.
Within Ireland it might be someone moving from County Kerry to Dublin.
http://www.fionasplace.net/irishjokes/Kerrymanjokes.html
When the world makes fun of Irish men and tell Irish men jokes did
you ever wonder who the Irish told jokes about? Well wonder no
more! We tell jokes about those Irishmen who come from County
Kerry......Kerryman jokes! Here is a selection therefore of the
silly kerryman jokes that abound in Ireland.
How would you get a Kerryman to climb on the roof of a pub?
Tell him the drinks are on the house!
How do you keep a Kerryman happy for an afternoon?
Write P.T.O on both sides of a piece of paper.
A kerryman, who had fallen into a lot of money [1], went to the Dr
with an injured leg.
"That looks nasty",said the Dr,"I'd better give you a local
anaesthetic".
"Hang the expense", said the Kerryman, "I'll have the imported one!"
I have tried, without success, to find out who the Kerrymen tell the
jokes about.
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Peter Moylan http://www.pmoylan.org
Newcastle, NSW, Australia
Peter Young
2018-01-18 22:50:55 UTC
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Did the Belgian joke involve IQ and emigration of Belgians to the
Netherlands? Because the version I know involved Irishmen and their move
to the UK.
Within Ireland it might be someone moving from County Kerry to Dublin.
http://www.fionasplace.net/irishjokes/Kerrymanjokes.html
When the world makes fun of Irish men and tell Irish men jokes did
you ever wonder who the Irish told jokes about? Well wonder no
more! We tell jokes about those Irishmen who come from County
Kerry......Kerryman jokes! Here is a selection therefore of the
silly kerryman jokes that abound in Ireland.
How would you get a Kerryman to climb on the roof of a pub?
Tell him the drinks are on the house!
How do you keep a Kerryman happy for an afternoon?
Write P.T.O on both sides of a piece of paper.
A kerryman, who had fallen into a lot of money [1], went to the Dr
with an injured leg.
"That looks nasty",said the Dr,"I'd better give you a local
anaesthetic".
"Hang the expense", said the Kerryman, "I'll have the imported one!"
I have tried, without success, to find out who the Kerrymen tell the
jokes about.
Possibly the folk from the Aran Islands?

Peter.
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Peter Young, (BrE, RP), Consultant Anaesthetist, 1975-2004.
(US equivalent: Certified Anesthesiologist) (AUE Pt)
Cheltenham and Gloucester, UK. Now happily retired.
http://pnyoung.orpheusweb.co.uk
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Did the Belgian joke involve IQ and emigration of Belgians to the
Netherlands? Because the version I know involved Irishmen and their move
to the UK.
Within Ireland it might be someone moving from County Kerry to Dublin.
http://www.fionasplace.net/irishjokes/Kerrymanjokes.html
When the world makes fun of Irish men and tell Irish men jokes did
you ever wonder who the Irish told jokes about? Well wonder no
more! We tell jokes about those Irishmen who come from County
Kerry......
...
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I have tried, without success, to find out who the Kerrymen tell the
jokes about.
Dubliners?
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Sorry Hen, I'm not a fan of the clucking format of your posts. And I am
sure I'm not the only one here.
As I said elsethread, they are so poorly formatted they are difficult to
read, so I don't.
--
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Sorry Hen, I'm not a fan of the clucking format of your posts. And I am
sure I'm not the only one here.
As I said elsethread, they are so poorly formatted they are difficult to
read, so I don't.
+1 . Even the subject lines are weird.

Peter.
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Peter Young, (BrE, RP), Consultant Anaesthetist, 1975-2004.
(US equivalent: Certified Anesthesiologist) (AUE Pt)
Cheltenham and Gloucester, UK. Now happily retired.
http://pnyoung.orpheusweb.co.uk
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2018-01-13 11:33:15 UTC
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[...]
-- confined within its own thread, [names for sausage]
could be a nice topic for AUE.
For decades, I vaguely thought that Brotwurst
must be have Bread in its ingredients.
(or that it goes with Bread)
until a few days ago, when I realized the correct spelling.
For the next 10 years, I may keep thinking that
Brat in Bratwurst means "burned" just like
Brannt in Branntwein.
"braten" in German is frying, not burning.

/Anders, Denmark.
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[...]
-- confined within its own thread, [names for sausage]
could be a nice topic for AUE.
For decades, I vaguely thought that Brotwurst
must be have Bread in its ingredients.
(or that it goes with Bread)
until a few days ago, when I realized the correct spelling.
For the next 10 years, I may keep thinking that
Brat in Bratwurst means "burned" just like
Brannt in Branntwein.
"braten" in German is frying, not burning.
That's not the original translation re "bratwurst".

"Finely chopped meat".
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On 11/01/2018 20:40, Hen Hanna wrote:

<not much, snipped>
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I have to say, this thread has been quite cathartic. It has brought out
many a personal prejudice, least of which are aimed at Hen Hanna's
posting style.

On a positive note - I think there is a gem of an idea in the title of
the thread: "AUE - 10 years ago"

Most newspapers have a column titled "10 years ago today". These reprint
stories published in their columns 10, 50 or even 100 years ago -
bringing a flavour of life and news, as reported by the paper all those
years ago.

I think this is something we can do for posts in AUE, highlighting some
of the memorable posts from the /same week/ 10 years ago.

( I am not the best qualified person to do this here, as my posting
history does not go that far back. However, to set the wheels into
motion, here's a sampler (courtesy of Google Groups) )

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Example 1
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From Peter Moylan, posted 13/01/2008



Re: Tap and faucet and spellcheckers [was: Re: What do YOU call the # sign?]
Men either dress for comfort or because some idiot boss decrees a
clothing standard. However, there does appear to be a new breed of
younger men - the sort that wax their legs - who actually take an
interest in fashion.
Given sufficient social pressure, I might just consent to waxing my
legs, but there's no power on earth that would convince me to get a
Brazilian.
--
Peter Moylan, Newcastle, NSW, Australia. http://www.pmoylan.org
For an e-mail address, see my web page.

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Example 2

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Mike Lyle, posted 13/1/08


Re: Tap and faucet and spellcheckers [was: Re: What do YOU call the # sign?]
[...]
The certain one, as I mentioned yesterday, is about the cut, and
cuttability, of men's trousers. However skilled your hemming (or
WundaWebbing), you just don't get a viable pair of tailored shorts if
you truncate a pair of long pants: the cut over the thighs is quite
different. Hence my suggestion that he resort to the local
dressmaker.
Hmm. Switching to a dress might be a bit radical, doncha think?
Well, if you pick your spot with care, Oz can be amazingly laid-back
these days.
--
Mike.

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Example 3
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Peter Duncanson (BrE) 16/01/2008
It makes a good
computer table...if you like little wheels on your legs for rolling
sideways.
You know, you can buy shoes with little wheels on them. They are much
more comfortable than wheels on your legs.
I'm not sure surfing-orientation rollerskates would have any advantages
over a skateboard.
"Surfing-orientation rollerskates [1]"?
What's them then?

Skates (the fish) that have a passion for (are orient(ta)ted
to(ward(s)) surfing rollers?

(Roller: a long heavy sea wave as it advances towards the
shore.)
I was thinking more of "heelies".
"roller skates", shirley?
--
Peter Duncanson, UK
(in alt.usage.english)

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