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an expensive coat/comma question
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a***@gmail.com
2019-11-09 06:30:09 UTC
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1) This is an expensive coat to wear on a hiking trip.
2) This is an expensive coat to be worn on a hiking trip.

Meaning: It is not wise to wear such an expensive coat on a hiking trip. You
shouldn't wear it on a hiking trip. It is too expensive for that.

Are sentences '1' and '2' grammatical and do they correspond to the given
meaning?

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3) This is an expensive tie, to wear at high-end gatherings.
4) This is an expensive tie, to be worn at high-end gatherings.

Are '3' and '4' grammatical?

If they are, do they imply that the tie should be worn only at high-end
gatherings?

Gratefully,
Navi
Dingbat
2019-11-09 07:29:11 UTC
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Post by a***@gmail.com
1) This is an expensive coat to wear on a hiking trip.
2) This is an expensive coat to be worn on a hiking trip.
Meaning: It is not wise to wear such an expensive coat on a hiking trip. You
shouldn't wear it on a hiking trip. It is too expensive for that.
Are sentences '1' and '2' grammatical and do they correspond to the given
meaning?
No & no.
This is too expensive a coat to wear on a hiking trip.
Eric Walker
2019-11-09 07:59:27 UTC
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Post by a***@gmail.com
1) This is an expensive coat to wear on a hiking trip.
2) This is an expensive coat to be worn on a hiking trip.
Meaning: It is not wise to wear such an expensive coat on a hiking trip.
You shouldn't wear it on a hiking trip. It is too expensive for that.
Are sentences '1' and '2' grammatical and do they correspond to the
given meaning?
Yes and yes, which is not to say they are optimally phrased. They
doubtless play better if spoken, when tones of voice can add guidance.
If communicated in writing, they are somewhat better put explicitly:

1a) This is too expensive a coat to wear on a hiking trip.

2a) This is too expensive a coat to be worn on a hiking trip.
Post by a***@gmail.com
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3) This is an expensive tie, to wear at high-end gatherings.
4) This is an expensive tie, to be worn at high-end gatherings.
Are '3' and '4' grammatical?
If they are, do they imply that the tie should be worn only at high-end
gatherings?
Number 4, yes and yes; number 3 is technically ok but might be better as
something like:

3a) This is an expensive tie, for wear at high-end gatherings.
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Cordially,
Eric Walker
Peeler
2019-11-09 09:37:18 UTC
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Post by a***@gmail.com
1) This is an expensive coat to wear on a hiking trip.
2) This is an expensive coat to be worn on a hiking trip.
Meaning: It is not wise to wear such an expensive coat on a hiking trip. You
shouldn't wear it on a hiking trip. It is too expensive for that.
Are sentences '1' and '2' grammatical and do they correspond to the given
meaning?
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3) This is an expensive tie, to wear at high-end gatherings.
4) This is an expensive tie, to be worn at high-end gatherings.
Are '3' and '4' grammatical?
If they are, do they imply that the tie should be worn only at high-end
gatherings?
Gratefully,
Navi
You certainly know how to keep the seniles busy with your dumb questions.
LOL
Peter T. Daniels
2019-11-09 15:05:48 UTC
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Post by a***@gmail.com
1) This is an expensive coat to wear on a hiking trip.
2) This is an expensive coat to be worn on a hiking trip.
Meaning: It is not wise to wear such an expensive coat on a hiking trip. You
shouldn't wear it on a hiking trip. It is too expensive for that.
Are sentences '1' and '2' grammatical and do they correspond to the given
meaning?
(2) is stupid.
Post by a***@gmail.com
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3) This is an expensive tie, to wear at high-end gatherings.
4) This is an expensive tie, to be worn at high-end gatherings.
Are '3' and '4' grammatical?
If they are, do they imply that the tie should be worn only at high-end
gatherings?
Interesting. Neither is good, but:

"This is an expensive tie, for wearing at formal occasions"

states its purpose

"This is an expensive tie for wearing at a backyard barbecue."

states inappropriateness.

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