Post by Tony Cooper
A show I was watching last night had a bit of background music, and
one of the tunes was Cher's "Gypsies, Tramps, and Thieves". That was
a big hit in 1971 both here and in the UK.
If that song was released in 2019, I imagine there would be a din of
protest for associating Gypsies with tramps and thieves.
Incidentally, the original title was "Gypsies, Tramps, and White
Trash". The songwriter, Bob Stone, changed "White Trash" to
I wonder if "White Trash" would been recognized in the UK. (The
single hit #4 in the UK charts)
Apologies to Laura if I have triggered STS.
It will be interesting to know what Laura thinks. "Gypsy/Gipsy" is now
more normally "traveller", and they can cause enormous disruption in the
sorts of place people like Laura live (home of Morris dancing IIRC), so
they can be subject to a lot of knee-jerk prejudice.
In the UK, in the 1970s, some travellers were sub-divided into Irish-
Tinkers, Diddycoys, Pikeys; but those distinctions seem to have died off.
We live immediately next door to a Romany Gipsy site, and we don't get
much trouble. I know athel and the other Brits love quizzes so:
Which dialect of SE England do Romany Gipsies speak? The choice is:
2) Irish brogue.
3) "County" middle-class?