On Sat, 4 Dec 2021 13:37:30 -0800 (PST), "Peter T. Daniels"
Post by Peter T. Daniels Post by Tony Cooper
On Fri, 3 Dec 2021 08:02:14 -0800 (PST), "Peter T. Daniels"
Post by Peter T. Daniels
I saw the last few minutes of some football game on Sunday (evening
or night), because it had gone on beyond its allotted time. For various
reasons, the kicker had to kick the winning three-pointer four times.
One of the times, the ball caromed off one of the uprights. (The other
three kicks were good, including the one that won the game.)
The two kicks that did split the uprights were not "good" if the play
was disallowed due to a penalty. "Good" means the kick counts.
Interesting. In Canadian football, if a kicked ball hits an upright (or the
crossbar), there are two possible outcomes of the kick.
1. If the ball bounces such as to go between the upright. It's a score.
2. If it bounces such as to not go between the uprights, it's considered
a 'dead ball', and the play ends.
That is the same in US football. In the game cited, though, three
plays were nullified by penalties. The effect is that those three
plays didn't happen, so it didn't make any difference if the ball hit
the uprights. There was only one "good" kick.
You really refuse to use ordinary English in ordinary ways. A kick
that goes between the uprights is a good kick. Whether it happens
to conform to the rules regarding counting it in a score has no effect
on its quality.
Let's add "good" to the ever-growing list of words you do not
understand. "Good", in this context, means "successful". If it does
not result in a score, it is not successful. It is not a description
of the trajectory of the kicked football.
A completed pass, or any other play, is not "good" if the play is
nullified by a penalty.
Post by Peter T. Daniels
Similarly, if a broadcaster has allotted, say, four hours to a football
game, but the game broadcast takes 4 1/2 hours, the game has
exceeded its allotted time, regardless of rules regarding what to
do in case of a tie.
The broadcaster does not allot a pre-determined period of time to a
football game. The broadcast will last until the game is over
regardless of the amount of time required for the game to be
The tie at the end of regulation requires one or more overtime periods
in football, but it's possible for a game to run long in regulation.
In baseball rain delays can cause a game to run long.
This is demonstrably the case based on the many, many televised games
that have required overtimes or extra innings, and the programs
scheduled after those games were delayed. In the case of a "live"
following program, the following program is picked up at the point
where the game coverage ended. A pre-recorded program may be shown in
What you see in the newspaper schedule or the TV guide, or in another
source, is the estimated amount of time. It is not the alloted time.
The English I use is the "ordinary" English used in circumstances I'm
speaking or writing about. You should try that sometime.
Tony Cooper Orlando Florida