Post by Ken Blake Post by Quinn C Post by Ken Blake Post by Peter Moylan Post by Chrysi Cat
Yikes. I think you're right, but what phonemes does one's native
language need to be missing to mis-hear "marled" for "mangled"? The
a-vowel isn't even similar--<a> for the former, vs <&> for the
latter! And the consonants aren't much more so!
I've just (re)read a Steinbeck story where an itinerant tinker
advertises that he can fix "lawn mores". That spelling for "mowers"
looks quirky, but I can see that in some accents the two words would be
That reminds me that many years ago, I worked for someone who was from
Wisconson. He pronounced "mirror" as a single syllable, something like
MEER. The first time I heard it, I had no idea what he was talking about.
Your words describe what I'd call the usual, or at least most common,
Not to me. How to pronounce it depends on where you're from. As Tony
suggests, it may be a common midwestern pronunciation, but that's not
the only kind of AmE there is. I've lived in New York, New Jersey, and
Arizona, and I've been, for at least a a short time, in 40 of the 50
states. I can't remember ever hearing anyone else but my boss pronounce
it that way.
To me it's clearly two syllables: MIRR-er
Intuitive statistics is never reliable in matters such as this one, and
my own may well be skewed by the more noticeable pronunciation taking up
more attention. But it's certainly nothing to report as a surprise -
I've heard it from many different speakers, and sometimes two different
speakers in the same audio piece.
It's quite normal that the second syllable would collapse into one
r-colored vowel (schwar) in AmE, rather than a distinct vowel plus an r,
which makes it difficult to recognize a syllable boundary there. Maybe
more so to someone like me who learned BrE first.
If I turn to <https://forvo.com/word/mirror/#en>
elrmess and yondez sound perfectly one-syllable to me; MinaAbril,
NipponJapan and ascrodin are close.
Kae4 illustrates well what I said in the last paragraph - there's a
clear second syllable marked by intonation, but the articulation hardly
moves from the final r of the first.
That makes half of the AmE examples, and I expect many of the recordings
made for this purpose to be over-enunciated compared to natural speech.
I'm not sure I've heard anyone say it as distinctly as Jeane (the most
upvoted version); I suspect this represents an ideal, is how a lot of
people think you should say it, but they don't actually do.
It didn't take long at all to pick these additional examples out of a
search for "mirror" on Youtube (ignoring songs):
My pronouns are they/them
(or other gender-neutral ones)