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"scrubbers" "black spot" BrE
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Curmudgeon
2013-07-25 19:15:02 UTC
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Is "scrubbers" considered offensive? What does it mean exactly? And are
"black spots" very common?

Withnail yelling scrubbers out his window:

Leslie Danks
2013-07-25 19:32:34 UTC
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Post by Curmudgeon
Is "scrubbers" considered offensive? What does it mean exactly?
"Scrubber" is British slang for a prostitute or loose woman. Most people
would consider the word offensive.
Post by Curmudgeon
And are
"black spots" very common?
An "Accident black spot" is a place where traffic accidents happen
frequently. The signs (if you stop the video you can examine one) are
intended to warn drivers to take more care. I've no idea how common they are
(or even whether they are still used).
Post by Curmudgeon
http://youtu.be/WYDlX49yUSI
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Les (BrE)
Frankly, my dear, I don't give a dime.
Steve Hayes
2013-07-25 20:53:07 UTC
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Post by Curmudgeon
Is "scrubbers" considered offensive? What does it mean exactly?
Not sure about that.
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And are
"black spots" very common?
Less so after ethnic cleansing.
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Robin Bignall
2013-07-25 20:53:44 UTC
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On Thu, 25 Jul 2013 15:15:02 -0400, "Curmudgeon"
Post by Curmudgeon
Is "scrubbers" considered offensive? What does it mean exactly? And are
"black spots" very common?
http://youtu.be/WYDlX49yUSI
Calling someone a scrubber is offensive. It basically means a young
woman who is sexually promiscuous.

A "Black Spot" is a place which is prone to troubles, usually vehicle
accidents. Signs for them appear all over the country.
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Robin Bignall
Herts, England (BrE)
Whiskers
2013-07-25 22:43:32 UTC
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Post by Robin Bignall
On Thu, 25 Jul 2013 15:15:02 -0400, "Curmudgeon"
Post by Curmudgeon
Is "scrubbers" considered offensive? What does it mean exactly? And are
"black spots" very common?
http://youtu.be/WYDlX49yUSI
Calling someone a scrubber is offensive. It basically means a young
woman who is sexually promiscuous.
A "Black Spot" is a place which is prone to troubles, usually vehicle
accidents. Signs for them appear all over the country.
... until they get knocked over.

You're more likely to find a reduced speed limit and/or 'speed camera'
these days; added revenue trumps mere information.
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-- ^^^^^^^^^^
-- Whiskers
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Gus
2013-07-26 02:40:01 UTC
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"Robin Bignall" <***@ntlworld.com> wrote in message news:***@4ax.com...
On Thu, 25 Jul 2013 15:15:02 -0400, "Curmudgeon"
Post by Curmudgeon
Is "scrubbers" considered offensive? What does it mean exactly? And are
"black spots" very common?
http://youtu.be/WYDlX49yUSI
Calling someone a scrubber is offensive. It basically means a young
woman who is sexually promiscuous.

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One website mentions scrubber as derived from someone that scrubs, as in
cleaning. Another, someone that scrubs as in scrounging for food.
CDB
2013-07-26 12:48:37 UTC
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Post by Gus
Post by Robin Bignall
Post by Curmudgeon
Is "scrubbers" considered offensive? What does it mean exactly? And are
"black spots" very common?
http://youtu.be/WYDlX49yUSI
Calling someone a scrubber is offensive. It basically means a young
woman who is sexually promiscuous.
One website mentions scrubber as derived from someone that scrubs, as in
cleaning. Another, someone that scrubs as in scrounging for food.
A destitute, like.
Richard Bollard
2013-07-30 05:40:56 UTC
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Post by Gus
Post by Robin Bignall
Post by Curmudgeon
Is "scrubbers" considered offensive? What does it mean exactly? And are
"black spots" very common?
http://youtu.be/WYDlX49yUSI
Calling someone a scrubber is offensive. It basically means a young
woman who is sexually promiscuous.
One website mentions scrubber as derived from someone that scrubs, as in
cleaning. Another, someone that scrubs as in scrounging for food.
A destitute, like.
Destitute is to prostitute as porcupine is to concubine.
--
Richard Bollard
Canberra Australia

To email, I'm at AMT not spAMT.
CDB
2013-07-30 13:47:13 UTC
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Post by Richard Bollard
Post by CDB
Post by Gus
Post by Robin Bignall
Post by Curmudgeon
Is "scrubbers" considered offensive? What does it mean exactly? And are
"black spots" very common?
http://youtu.be/WYDlX49yUSI
Calling someone a scrubber is offensive. It basically means a young
woman who is sexually promiscuous.
One website mentions scrubber as derived from someone that scrubs, as in
cleaning. Another, someone that scrubs as in scrounging for food.
A destitute, like.
Destitute is to prostitute as porcupine is to concubine.
That could definitely lead to proxénétisme aggravé.

I saw the word so used in a thread of Marius's ("Davies: knocks the hard
edge off fact"): [This man preaches to destitutes]. I liked it; got all
nostalgic, in fact (we had a bachelor Prime Minister once who frequently
preached to prostitutes); got to thinking about the connection between
the two conditions; and resolved to do what I could to promote it. The
usage, that is.
Leslie Danks
2013-07-30 13:57:36 UTC
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Post by CDB
Post by Richard Bollard
Post by CDB
Post by Gus
Post by Robin Bignall
Post by Curmudgeon
Is "scrubbers" considered offensive? What does it mean exactly? And
are "black spots" very common?
http://youtu.be/WYDlX49yUSI
Calling someone a scrubber is offensive. It basically means a young
woman who is sexually promiscuous.
One website mentions scrubber as derived from someone that scrubs, as in
cleaning. Another, someone that scrubs as in scrounging for food.
A destitute, like.
Destitute is to prostitute as porcupine is to concubine.
That could definitely lead to proxénétisme aggravé.
I saw the word so used in a thread of Marius's ("Davies: knocks the hard
edge off fact"): [This man preaches to destitutes]. I liked it; got all
nostalgic, in fact (we had a bachelor Prime Minister once who frequently
preached to prostitutes); got to thinking about the connection between
the two conditions; and resolved to do what I could to promote it. The
usage, that is.
Reminds me of a Punch cartoon in which a doer of good deeds going from door
to door collecting money explains to the householder that he is saving
fallen women. Householder: "Save one for me while you're at it".
--
Les (BrE)
Frankly, my dear, I don't give a dime.
Gus
2013-07-26 02:45:08 UTC
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"Robin Bignall" <***@ntlworld.com> wrote in message news:***@4ax.com...

A "Black Spot" is a place which is prone to troubles, usually vehicle
accidents. Signs for them appear all over the country.
--
I wonder how the saying came about. In the states, a black spot is
something bad-- a "black mark" on your record. But never heard in
connection with autos or traffic. Do "accident black spots" have some
commonality between them? Tend to be bad curves, poor line of sight,
heavily used round-abouts, etc?
Peter Duncanson [BrE]
2013-07-26 10:16:33 UTC
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Post by Robin Bignall
A "Black Spot" is a place which is prone to troubles, usually vehicle
accidents. Signs for them appear all over the country.
--
I wonder how the saying came about. In the states, a black spot is
something bad-- a "black mark" on your record. But never heard in
connection with autos or traffic. Do "accident black spots" have some
commonality between them? Tend to be bad curves, poor line of sight,
heavily used round-abouts, etc?
An accident black spot is a "black spot" because of the number of
accidents that have happened there.

Take a road map and put black dots on it to mark the locations of every
accident. A location (junction, curve, etc) with a large number of black
dots is an "accident black spot".
--
Peter Duncanson, UK
(in alt.usage.english)
Mike Barnes
2013-07-26 06:38:46 UTC
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Post by Robin Bignall
A "Black Spot" is a place which is prone to troubles, usually vehicle
accidents. Signs for them appear all over the country.
I wonder how the saying came about. In the states, a black spot is something
bad-- a "black mark" on your record. But never heard in connection with autos
or traffic.
The way it was explained to me as a child is that the police kept maps
with black dots for each accident location. When there were so many
black dots that black spot was formed, they knew something was wrong,
and put a sign up. Seems fanciful now, but I believed it at the time.
Do "accident black spots" have some commonality between them?
Tend to be bad curves, poor line of sight, heavily used round-abouts, etc?
I'm sure they do and there's a great deal of research on the matter. IME
it's usually a junction where traffic on the major road is moving much
faster than emerging traffic would expect. The authorities usually
concentrate on trying to slow the major road traffic down (that is their
instinct for almost every traffic problem), and rarely take steps to
raise awareness in emerging traffic. A junction near us has a reduced
speed limit, two speed cameras, and "black spot" signs on the major
road; nothing on the minor roads. Bonkers.


[Gus: your posting style needs some work. Quoted material should be
indented, line length should be no more than 72 characters, and
important content shouldn't be placed below a sig separator.]
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Mike Barnes
Cheshire, England
Don Phillipson
2013-07-26 14:14:12 UTC
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Post by Robin Bignall
A "Black Spot" is a place which is prone to troubles, usually vehicle
accidents. Signs for them appear all over the country.
I wonder how the saying came about. In the states, a black spot is
something bad-- a "black mark" on your record. But never heard in
connection with autos or traffic.
In Britain, the postwar Labour government (1945-51) propagandized
vigorously to reduce traffic accidents, and successor governments
followed suit (because increasing vehicle numbers threatened
more accidents. Elements of this campaign included:
1. "Kerb drill," a standard way of crossing vehicular
roads, taught by rote to school children.
2. "Zebra" pedestrian crossings, indicated by black and
white stripes on the roadway. (Belisha beacons had been
introduced in the 1930s to indicate pedestrian crossings.)
3. General adverting to "Keep Death off the Roads,"
widely criticized because some of its pictures seemed morbid.
4. Public signs identifying Black Spots where two or more
similar accidents had occurred.
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Don Phillipson
Carlsbad Springs
(Ottawa, Canada)
Mike L
2013-07-26 22:43:40 UTC
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On Fri, 26 Jul 2013 10:14:12 -0400, "Don Phillipson"
Post by Don Phillipson
Post by Robin Bignall
A "Black Spot" is a place which is prone to troubles, usually vehicle
accidents. Signs for them appear all over the country.
I wonder how the saying came about. In the states, a black spot is
something bad-- a "black mark" on your record. But never heard in
connection with autos or traffic.
In Britain, the postwar Labour government (1945-51) propagandized
vigorously to reduce traffic accidents, and successor governments
followed suit (because increasing vehicle numbers threatened
1. "Kerb drill," a standard way of crossing vehicular
roads, taught by rote to school children.
2. "Zebra" pedestrian crossings, indicated by black and
white stripes on the roadway. (Belisha beacons had been
introduced in the 1930s to indicate pedestrian crossings.)
3. General adverting to "Keep Death off the Roads,"
widely criticized because some of its pictures seemed morbid.
4. Public signs identifying Black Spots where two or more
similar accidents had occurred.
There are also radio "black spots", where signals drop out. And days:
"It's a black day for Clan Chattan!" or "Prices plummeted on Black
Monday". It feels productive to me: I reckon I could several new black
somethings and be instantly understood.
--
Mike.
Peter T. Daniels
2013-07-27 03:41:53 UTC
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Post by Mike L
"It's a black day for Clan Chattan!" or "Prices plummeted on Black
Monday". It feels productive to me: I reckon I could several new black
somethings and be instantly understood.
With one exception: Black Friday, the day after Thanksgiving (4th Thursday
in November), is called Black Friday because it's the day retail sales
(the start of Christmas shopping) put the establishment into the black.

(I suspect if we had a map collating accident sites, the dots would be red
rather than black.)
Peter Duncanson [BrE]
2013-07-27 11:24:18 UTC
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On Fri, 26 Jul 2013 20:41:53 -0700 (PDT), "Peter T. Daniels"
Post by Peter T. Daniels
Post by Mike L
"It's a black day for Clan Chattan!" or "Prices plummeted on Black
Monday". It feels productive to me: I reckon I could several new black
somethings and be instantly understood.
With one exception: Black Friday, the day after Thanksgiving (4th Thursday
in November), is called Black Friday because it's the day retail sales
(the start of Christmas shopping) put the establishment into the black.
(I suspect if we had a map collating accident sites, the dots would be red
rather than black.)
Do Republicans cause or suffer more road accidents than other people?
--
Peter Duncanson, UK
(in alt.usage.english)
Peter T. Daniels
2013-07-27 12:50:34 UTC
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Post by Peter Duncanson [BrE]
On Fri, 26 Jul 2013 20:41:53 -0700 (PDT), "Peter T. Daniels"
Post by Peter T. Daniels
(I suspect if we had a map collating accident sites, the dots would be red
rather than black.)
Do Republicans cause or suffer more road accidents than other people?
That would be a legitimate query if the alternative were blue dots -- and if
the matter came up at any time since 2000 or 2004.
Tony Cooper
2013-07-27 13:21:01 UTC
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On Sat, 27 Jul 2013 12:24:18 +0100, "Peter Duncanson [BrE]"
Post by Peter Duncanson [BrE]
On Fri, 26 Jul 2013 20:41:53 -0700 (PDT), "Peter T. Daniels"
Post by Peter T. Daniels
Post by Mike L
"It's a black day for Clan Chattan!" or "Prices plummeted on Black
Monday". It feels productive to me: I reckon I could several new black
somethings and be instantly understood.
With one exception: Black Friday, the day after Thanksgiving (4th Thursday
in November), is called Black Friday because it's the day retail sales
(the start of Christmas shopping) put the establishment into the black.
(I suspect if we had a map collating accident sites, the dots would be red
rather than black.)
Do Republicans cause or suffer more road accidents than other people?
Probably not. In the US, Republicans are the Party of No and known
for blocking any progression. If they drive like they act in
Congress, they just sit in traffic and block other drivers from
moving.
--
Tony Cooper - Orlando FL
Gus
2013-07-27 17:10:38 UTC
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Post by Peter Duncanson [BrE]
On Fri, 26 Jul 2013 20:41:53 -0700 (PDT), "Peter T. Daniels"
Post by Peter T. Daniels
Post by Mike L
"It's a black day for Clan Chattan!" or "Prices plummeted on Black
Monday". It feels productive to me: I reckon I could several new black
somethings and be instantly understood.
With one exception: Black Friday, the day after Thanksgiving (4th Thursday
in November), is called Black Friday because it's the day retail sales
(the start of Christmas shopping) put the establishment into the black.
(I suspect if we had a map collating accident sites, the dots would be red
rather than black.)
Do Republicans cause or suffer more road accidents than other people?
--
May be true in the US. Louisiana is mostly Republican and Oregon mostly
Democrat.

"Consider drunk driving. In 2011, Oregon made 387 arrests for driving
under the influence per 100,000 residents in the state, nearly triple
the 132 per 100,000 made in Louisiana the same year. But the Bayou state
lost about twice as many residents per capita as Oregon in car accidents
in which alcohol was involved. Unless Oregonians are simply better drunk
drivers than Louisianans, the data suggest that arrests do not correlate
with the incidence of drunk driving."

Florida has 3 of the worst 5 cities for driving in the US, according to
this article. Florida is considered purple, but I would say it's red.

http://www.slate.com/articles/health_and_science/science/2013/07/which_city_has_the_worst_drivers_boston_baltimore_washington_d_c_miami.single.html


I did not realize red for Republican and blue for Democrat (in the US)
only came into vogue after 2000.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Red_states_and_blue_states
Tony Cooper
2013-07-27 18:44:49 UTC
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Post by Gus
Post by Peter Duncanson [BrE]
On Fri, 26 Jul 2013 20:41:53 -0700 (PDT), "Peter T. Daniels"
Post by Peter T. Daniels
Post by Mike L
"It's a black day for Clan Chattan!" or "Prices plummeted on Black
Monday". It feels productive to me: I reckon I could several new black
somethings and be instantly understood.
With one exception: Black Friday, the day after Thanksgiving (4th Thursday
in November), is called Black Friday because it's the day retail sales
(the start of Christmas shopping) put the establishment into the black.
(I suspect if we had a map collating accident sites, the dots would be red
rather than black.)
Do Republicans cause or suffer more road accidents than other people?
--
May be true in the US. Louisiana is mostly Republican and Oregon mostly
Democrat.
"Consider drunk driving. In 2011, Oregon made 387 arrests for driving
under the influence per 100,000 residents in the state, nearly triple
the 132 per 100,000 made in Louisiana the same year. But the Bayou state
lost about twice as many residents per capita as Oregon in car accidents
in which alcohol was involved. Unless Oregonians are simply better drunk
drivers than Louisianans, the data suggest that arrests do not correlate
with the incidence of drunk driving."
Florida has 3 of the worst 5 cities for driving in the US, according to
this article. Florida is considered purple, but I would say it's red.
http://www.slate.com/articles/health_and_science/science/2013/07/which_city_has_the_worst_drivers_boston_baltimore_washington_d_c_miami.single.html
Miami, and the Dade/Broward area, skews the figures for Florida. It
literally scares me to drive in Miami. I'm surprised that Tampa is on
the list, but most of the Tampa accidents must be centered around
"Malfunction Junction" where I-4, I-75, and I-275 merge in a spaghetti
tangle of roads. Motorists intending to merge from one to another of
those routes are playing dodgem cars. The traffic snarls get
motorists so frustrated they do things they wouldn't normally do.

Up here in Orlando, you are less likely to be in an
automobile-to-automobile accident, but we lead the nation, not the
state - the nation, in pedestrian deaths. We have long stretches of
major roadways without frequent pedestrian crossings, so pedestrians
just cut across busy traffic.
--
Tony Cooper - Orlando FL
Cheryl
2013-07-25 21:18:49 UTC
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Post by Curmudgeon
Is "scrubbers" considered offensive? What does it mean exactly? And
are "black spots" very common?
http://youtu.be/WYDlX49yUSI
"Scrubbers" could mean "sluts" He's calling the girls sluts.
--
Cheryl
Dr Nick
2013-08-04 19:26:51 UTC
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Post by Curmudgeon
Is "scrubbers" considered offensive? What does it mean exactly? And
are "black spots" very common?
http://youtu.be/WYDlX49yUSI
"Scrubbers" could mean "sluts" He's calling the girls sluts.
Prof. Anna Vrooshka: You see, I am keeping a, how you say, a dirrrty
caravan.

Arthur Upmore: Keeping a what?

Prof. Anna Vrooshka: You see, I am having birds in my caravan you want
to come and see?

Arthur Upmore: No thank you, not just now.

Prof. Anna Vrooshka: Therefore, I am going round camp looking for
scrubbers.
Nick Spalding
2013-08-04 20:09:17 UTC
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Post by Cheryl
Post by Curmudgeon
Is "scrubbers" considered offensive? What does it mean exactly? And
are "black spots" very common?
http://youtu.be/WYDlX49yUSI
"Scrubbers" could mean "sluts" He's calling the girls sluts.
Prof. Anna Vrooshka: You see, I am keeping a, how you say, a dirrrty
caravan.
Arthur Upmore: Keeping a what?
Prof. Anna Vrooshka: You see, I am having birds in my caravan you want
to come and see?
Arthur Upmore: No thank you, not just now.
Prof. Anna Vrooshka: Therefore, I am going round camp looking for
scrubbers.
One of my pa's denigratory expressions was "wet as a scrubber" referring
to scrubbing the decks not a less that discriminatory young woman.
--
Nick Spalding
BrE/IrE
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