[cartouche] from Italian cartoccio

[Ken Blake]

A team of archaeologists digging up an ancient fort in the area spotted it
and cleaned it, finding a shimmering bronze blade with the intricacies of
an ornamental cartouche - the personal emblem used by the pharaohs - still
visible.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/history/2024/09/19/ancient-egypt-military-sword-archaeology-fort/

1: a gun cartridge with a paper case
2: an ornate or ornamental frame
3: an oval or oblong figure (as on ancient Egyptian monuments)
enclosing a sovereign's name

Etymology
Middle French cartouche, from Italian cartoccio, from carta

[Aidan Kehoe]

[...] Etymology
Middle French cartouche, from Italian cartoccio, from carta

« Cartouche » is also just the normal French word for cartridge. I’m surprised
the English word is so late, apparently 1579, I would have guessed a Norman
borrowing.

[Silvano]

[...] Etymology
Middle French cartouche, from Italian cartoccio, from carta

« Cartouche » is also just the normal French word for cartridge. I’m surprised
the English word is so late, apparently 1579, I would have guessed a Norman
borrowing.

May I remind you that the Normans did not know gun powder and no one
used firearms at the Battle of Hastings?

[Hibou]

Post by Aidan Kehoe

[...] Etymology
Middle French cartouche, from Italian cartoccio, from carta

« Cartouche » is also just the normal French word for cartridge. I’m surprised
the English word is so late, apparently 1579, I would have guessed a Norman
borrowing.

The TLF traces cartouche (m.), meaning ornament, back to 1546, and
confirms its borrowing from the Italian 'cartoccio' (« Ornement en forme
de carte aux bords enroulés dont le champ porte des armoiries, une
inscription. ») Cartouche (f.), a rolled paper containing gunpowder for
muskets and pistols, goes back to 1571, and is also from 'cartoccio',
undergoing a sex-change - sorry, change of gender - while crossing the Alps.

[Hibou]

Post by Hibou
The TLF traces cartouche (m.), meaning ornament, back to 1546, and
confirms its borrowing from the Italian 'cartoccio'

I was surprised at the Italian etymology as I would have thought French.

It's all just Latin gone to seed.

[Ross Clark]

Post by Hibou
The TLF traces cartouche (m.), meaning ornament, back to 1546, and
confirms its borrowing from the Italian 'cartoccio'

I was surprised at the Italian etymology as I would have thought French.

Italian _via_ French
or
< French < Italian, if you prefer