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Ken Blake
2024-12-01 07:31:25 UTC
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U.S. envoy Amos Hochstein shuttled repeatedly to Beirut and Jerusalem
despite the ructions of an election at home to secure a deal that required
help from France, and that was nearly derailed by international arrest
warrants for Israel's leaders.

https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/ructions
1: a noisy fight
2: DISTURBANCE, UPROAR

English offers up a scramble of colorful words for what can happen when
tempers spill over. For example, we have melee, fracas, donnybrook, ruckus,
and one especially for baseball fans, rhubarb. Ruction is rarer than most
of these.

Etymologists speculate that ruction came to English in the early 19th
century as a shortening and alteration of another word suggesting an
episode of violence: insurrection. The earliest uses of ruction
specifically make reference to the Irish Rebellion of 1798, an uprising
against British rule on that island. Ruckus came later, toward the end of
the 19th century, and was probably formed by combining ruction with rumpus.
Sam Plusnet
2024-12-01 19:16:40 UTC
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Post by Ken Blake
https://www.reuters.com/world/middle-east/diplomatic-push-that-took-lebanon-armageddon-ceasefire-2024-11-29/
U.S. envoy Amos Hochstein shuttled repeatedly to Beirut and Jerusalem
despite the ructions of an election at home to secure a deal that required
help from France, and that was nearly derailed by international arrest
warrants for Israel's leaders.
https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/ructions
1: a noisy fight
2: DISTURBANCE, UPROAR
English offers up a scramble of colorful words for what can happen when
tempers spill over. For example, we have melee, fracas, donnybrook, ruckus,
and one especially for baseball fans, rhubarb. Ruction is rarer than most
of these.
Etymologists speculate that ruction came to English in the early 19th
century as a shortening and alteration of another word suggesting an
episode of violence: insurrection. The earliest uses of ruction
specifically make reference to the Irish Rebellion of 1798, an uprising
against British rule on that island. Ruckus came later, toward the end of
the 19th century, and was probably formed by combining ruction with rumpus.
Is it not some variant on "eruction" or "eructation"?
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Tony Cooper
2024-12-01 20:29:07 UTC
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Post by Ken Blake
https://www.reuters.com/world/middle-east/diplomatic-push-that-took-lebanon-armageddon-ceasefire-2024-11-29/
U.S. envoy Amos Hochstein shuttled repeatedly to Beirut and Jerusalem
despite the ructions of an election at home to secure a deal that required
help from France, and that was nearly derailed by international arrest
warrants for Israel's leaders.
https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/ructions
1: a noisy fight
2: DISTURBANCE, UPROAR
English offers up a scramble of colorful words for what can happen when
tempers spill over. For example, we have melee, fracas, donnybrook, ruckus,
and one especially for baseball fans, rhubarb. Ruction is rarer than most
of these.
Etymologists speculate that ruction came to English in the early 19th
century as a shortening and alteration of another word suggesting an
episode of violence: insurrection. The earliest uses of ruction
specifically make reference to the Irish Rebellion of 1798, an uprising
against British rule on that island. Ruckus came later, toward the end of
the 19th century, and was probably formed by combining ruction with rumpus.
Is it not some variant on "eruction" or "eructation"?
Am I the only one who - on seeing "ruction" here - immediately thought
of the song "Finnigan's Wake"?

One of the verses is:

Then Maggie O'Connor took up the job
"O Biddy, " says she "you're wrong I'm sure"
Biddy gave her a belt in the gob
And left her sprawling on the floor
Then the war did soon engage
It was woman to woman and man to man
Shillelagh law was all the rage
And a row and a ruction soon began
Aidan Kehoe
2024-12-01 20:38:29 UTC
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Post by Ken Blake
https://www.reuters.com/world/middle-east/diplomatic-push-that-took-lebanon-armageddon-ceasefire-2024-11-29/
U.S. envoy Amos Hochstein shuttled repeatedly to Beirut and Jerusalem
despite the ructions of an election at home to secure a deal that required
help from France, and that was nearly derailed by international arrest
warrants for Israel's leaders.
https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/ructions
1: a noisy fight
2: DISTURBANCE, UPROAR
English offers up a scramble of colorful words for what can happen when
tempers spill over. For example, we have melee, fracas, donnybrook, ruckus,
and one especially for baseball fans, rhubarb. Ruction is rarer than most
of these.
Etymologists speculate that ruction came to English in the early 19th
century as a shortening and alteration of another word suggesting an
episode of violence: insurrection. The earliest uses of ruction
specifically make reference to the Irish Rebellion of 1798, an uprising
against British rule on that island. Ruckus came later, toward the end of
the 19th century, and was probably formed by combining ruction with rumpus.
Is it not some variant on "eruction" or "eructation"?
Belching? I don’t think that’s particularly clear.

It’s a reasonably well-known word in .ie, but yes, I was a little surprised to
read it in an international wire piece. John Irish, the first author of the
piece is French and British; Humeyra Pamuk (or Hümeyra Pamuk) appears to be
Turkish, Maya Gebeily appears to be Lebanese-American, so not heavy on Irish
influence.
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How your man stayed up on the surfboard after fourteen pints of stout’
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Bebercito
2024-12-02 01:55:07 UTC
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Post by Sam Plusnet
Post by Ken Blake
U.S. envoy Amos Hochstein shuttled repeatedly to Beirut and
Jerusalem
Post by Sam Plusnet
Post by Ken Blake
despite the ructions of an election at home to secure a deal that
required
Post by Sam Plusnet
Post by Ken Blake
help from France, and that was nearly derailed by international
arrest
Post by Sam Plusnet
Post by Ken Blake
warrants for Israel's leaders.
https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/ructions
1: a noisy fight
2: DISTURBANCE, UPROAR
English offers up a scramble of colorful words for what can happen
when
Post by Sam Plusnet
Post by Ken Blake
tempers spill over. For example, we have melee, fracas, donnybrook,
ruckus,
Post by Sam Plusnet
Post by Ken Blake
and one especially for baseball fans, rhubarb. Ruction is rarer
than most
Post by Sam Plusnet
Post by Ken Blake
of these.
Etymologists speculate that ruction came to English in the early
19th
Post by Sam Plusnet
Post by Ken Blake
century as a shortening and alteration of another word suggesting
an
Post by Sam Plusnet
Post by Ken Blake
episode of violence: insurrection. The earliest uses of ruction
specifically make reference to the Irish Rebellion of 1798, an
uprising
Post by Sam Plusnet
Post by Ken Blake
against British rule on that island. Ruckus came later, toward the
end of
Post by Sam Plusnet
Post by Ken Blake
the 19th century, and was probably formed by combining ruction with
rumpus.
Post by Sam Plusnet
Is it not some variant on "eruction" or "eructation"?
Also my first thought.
Post by Ken Blake
Belching? I don’t think that’s particularly clear.
It could be used as a false friend from French, as "éructer" means
both "belch" and "utter vehemently", which somehow suggests violence.
Post by Ken Blake
It’s a reasonably well-known word in .ie, but yes, I was a little surprised to
read it in an international wire piece. John Irish, the first author of the
piece is French and British; Humeyra Pamuk (or Hümeyra Pamuk) appears to be
Turkish, Maya Gebeily appears to be Lebanese-American, so not heavy on Irish
influence.
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Sam Plusnet
2024-12-02 20:28:40 UTC
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Post by Ken Blake
 > >
https://www.reuters.com/world/middle-east/diplomatic-push-that-took-
lebanon-armageddon-ceasefire-2024-11-29/
 > >
 > > U.S. envoy Amos Hochstein shuttled repeatedly to Beirut and
Jerusalem
 > > despite the ructions of an election at home to secure a deal that
required
 > > help from France, and that was nearly derailed by international
arrest
 > > warrants for Israel's leaders.
 > >
 > > https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/ructions
 > > 1: a noisy fight
 > > 2: DISTURBANCE, UPROAR
 > >
 > > English offers up a scramble of colorful words for what can happen
when
 > > tempers spill over. For example, we have melee, fracas, donnybrook,
ruckus,
 > > and one especially for baseball fans, rhubarb. Ruction is rarer
than most
 > > of these.
 > >
 > > Etymologists speculate that ruction came to English in the early
19th
 > > century as a shortening and alteration of another word suggesting
an
 > > episode of violence: insurrection. The earliest uses of ruction
 > > specifically make reference to the Irish Rebellion of 1798, an
uprising
 > > against British rule on that island. Ruckus came later, toward the
end of
 > > the 19th century, and was probably formed by combining ruction with
rumpus.
 >
 > Is it not some variant on "eruction" or "eructation"?
Also my first thought.
Post by Ken Blake
Belching? I don’t think that’s particularly clear.
It could be used as a false friend from French, as "éructer" means
both "belch" and "utter vehemently", which somehow suggests violence.
I was thinking of a belch as a sudden 'volcanic' eruption - somewhat
like a sudden outbreak of anger in a crowd.

But I don't expect to convince anyone.
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Sam Plusnet
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