Whence exeligmos?

[Snidely]

In following along about eclipse prediction and the cycles thereof, I
ran across "exeligmos". Clearly taken from the Greek (see the WP
article for the relevant orthography), but it looks like a compound
word, and I'm teased by wondering what is compounded.

The WP article skips that, and neither m-w dot com nor dictionary dot
com cover the word at all. Does any party in this arena have an
exposition [1] of the agglomeration [2]?

This paragraph is just filler to provide beathing room before the
footnotes. It would be a good place for end credits, but those aren't
available yet. Perhaps we should bike-shed the title cards to be used.
I suggest a dusty orange.

[1] sorry, this is ex-latin
[2] so is this

/dps

[occam]

Post by Snidely
In following along about eclipse prediction and the cycles thereof, I
ran across "exeligmos".  Clearly taken from the Greek (see the WP
article for the relevant orthography), but it looks like a compound
word, and I'm teased by wondering what is compounded.
The WP article skips that, and neither m-w dot com nor dictionary dot
com cover the word at all.  Does any party in this arena have an
exposition [1] of the agglomeration [2]?
This paragraph is just filler to provide beathing room before the
footnotes.  It would be a good place for end credits, but those aren't
available yet.  Perhaps we should bike-shed the title cards to be used.
I suggest a dusty orange.
[1] sorry, this is ex-latin
[2] so is this

From wikipedia:

"It corresponds to:

3 saroses
669 synodic months
725.996 draconic months
56.996 eclipse years (114 eclipse seasons)
716.976 anomalistic months "

I can't help thinking someone's taking the piss. It's reminiscent of
Indian (pre-metric) units of measurements.

[Snidely]

Post by occam

Post by Snidely
In following along about eclipse prediction and the cycles thereof, I
ran across "exeligmos".  Clearly taken from the Greek (see the WP
article for the relevant orthography), but it looks like a compound
word, and I'm teased by wondering what is compounded.
The WP article skips that, and neither m-w dot com nor dictionary dot
com cover the word at all.  Does any party in this arena have an
exposition [1] of the agglomeration [2]?
This paragraph is just filler to provide beathing room before the
footnotes.  It would be a good place for end credits, but those aren't
available yet.  Perhaps we should bike-shed the title cards to be used.
I suggest a dusty orange.
[1] sorry, this is ex-latin
[2] so is this

3 saroses
669 synodic months
725.996 draconic months
56.996 eclipse years (114 eclipse seasons)
716.976 anomalistic months "
I can't help thinking someone's taking the piss. It's reminiscent of
Indian (pre-metric) units of measurements.

Sure, take the piss, but it's a useful period for eclipse prediction.
Meanwhile, what did the Greeks use to come up with the /term/?

/dps

[J. J. Lodder]

Post by occam

Post by Snidely
In following along about eclipse prediction and the cycles thereof, I
ran across "exeligmos". Clearly taken from the Greek (see the WP
article for the relevant orthography), but it looks like a compound
word, and I'm teased by wondering what is compounded.
The WP article skips that, and neither m-w dot com nor dictionary dot
com cover the word at all. Does any party in this arena have an
exposition [1] of the agglomeration [2]?
This paragraph is just filler to provide beathing room before the
footnotes. It would be a good place for end credits, but those aren't
available yet. Perhaps we should bike-shed the title cards to be used.
I suggest a dusty orange.
[1] sorry, this is ex-latin
[2] so is this

3 saroses
669 synodic months
725.996 draconic months
56.996 eclipse years (114 eclipse seasons)
716.976 anomalistic months "
I can't help thinking someone's taking the piss. It's reminiscent of
Indian (pre-metric) units of measurements.

Reality is complicated.
The miracle is that these periods happen to exist,
and that those numbers happen to be nearly integer.

One can only marvel at the cleverness of those ancient astronomers
who already knew all about it, and who used that knowledge
to predict eclipses,

Jan

[guido wugi]

Post by Snidely
In following along about eclipse prediction and the cycles thereof, I
ran across "exeligmos".  Clearly taken from the Greek (see the WP
article for the relevant orthography), but it looks like a compound
word, and I'm teased by wondering what is compounded.
The WP article skips that, and neither m-w dot com nor dictionary dot
com cover the word at all.  Does any party in this arena have an
exposition [1] of the agglomeration [2]?
This paragraph is just filler to provide beathing room before the
footnotes.  It would be a good place for end credits, but those aren't
available yet.  Perhaps we should bike-shed the title cards to be
used. I suggest a dusty orange.
[1] sorry, this is ex-latin
[2] so is this

If you want the etymology, my old Greek dico gives related words (with
spiritus asper):
ελισσω  to turn, twist,...
ελιγμος   coil, detour, vortex
ελιξ (helix!)  curly, spiral...

Generally: to turn (around, or messily, ...)
So, for ex-elisso:
to turn out ~ to finish a cycle.
I guess (of the wheel of time).

[Snidely]

Post by guido wugi

In following along about eclipse prediction and the cycles thereof, I ran
across "exeligmos".  Clearly taken from the Greek (see the WP article for
the relevant orthography), but it looks like a compound word, and I'm
teased by wondering what is compounded.
The WP article skips that, and neither m-w dot com nor dictionary dot com
cover the word at all.  Does any party in this arena have an exposition [1]
of the agglomeration [2]?
This paragraph is just filler to provide beathing room before the
footnotes.  It would be a good place for end credits, but those aren't
available yet.  Perhaps we should bike-shed the title cards to be used. I
suggest a dusty orange.
[1] sorry, this is ex-latin
[2] so is this

If you want the etymology, my old Greek dico gives related words (with
ελισσω  to turn, twist,...
ελιγμος   coil, detour, vortex
ελιξ (helix!)  curly, spiral...
Generally: to turn (around, or messily, ...)
to turn out ~ to finish a cycle.
I guess (of the wheel of time).

Thanks ... that makes me feel a lot more satisfied.

/dps

[Sam Plusnet]

Post by Snidely

Post by guido wugi

Post by Snidely
In following along about eclipse prediction and the cycles thereof, I
ran across "exeligmos".  Clearly taken from the Greek (see the WP
article for the relevant orthography), but it looks like a compound
word, and I'm teased by wondering what is compounded.
The WP article skips that, and neither m-w dot com nor dictionary dot
com cover the word at all.  Does any party in this arena have an
exposition [1] of the agglomeration [2]?
This paragraph is just filler to provide beathing room before the
footnotes.  It would be a good place for end credits, but those
aren't available yet.  Perhaps we should bike-shed the title cards to
be used. I suggest a dusty orange.
[1] sorry, this is ex-latin
[2] so is this

If you want the etymology, my old Greek dico gives related words (with
ελισσω  to turn, twist,...
ελιγμος   coil, detour, vortex
ελιξ (helix!)  curly, spiral...
Generally: to turn (around, or messily, ...)
to turn out ~ to finish a cycle.
I guess (of the wheel of time).

Thanks ... that makes me feel a lot more satisfied.

Loose translation:
Turn
Like a circle
In a spiral
Like a wheel
Within a wheel
Never ending
or beginning

[Kerr-Mudd, John]

On Sun, 15 Sep 2024 19:37:45 +0100

Post by Sam Plusnet

Post by Snidely

Post by guido wugi

Post by Snidely
In following along about eclipse prediction and the cycles thereof, I
ran across "exeligmos".  Clearly taken from the Greek (see the WP
article for the relevant orthography), but it looks like a compound
word, and I'm teased by wondering what is compounded.
The WP article skips that, and neither m-w dot com nor dictionary dot
com cover the word at all.  Does any party in this arena have an
exposition [1] of the agglomeration [2]?
This paragraph is just filler to provide beathing room before the
footnotes.  It would be a good place for end credits, but those
aren't available yet.  Perhaps we should bike-shed the title cards to
be used. I suggest a dusty orange.
[1] sorry, this is ex-latin
[2] so is this

If you want the etymology, my old Greek dico gives related words (with
ελισσω  to turn, twist,...
ελιγμος   coil, detour, vortex
ελιξ (helix!)  curly, spiral...
Generally: to turn (around, or messily, ...)
to turn out ~ to finish a cycle.
I guess (of the wheel of time).

Thanks ... that makes me feel a lot more satisfied.

Turn
Like a circle
In a spiral
Like a wheel
Within a wheel
Never ending
or beginning

Sounds to me (though IANAD,NDIPOOTV) as if you have windmills in mind.
Is it a bit breezy in there?

[Snidely]

Kerr-Mudd, John is guilty of
<***@127.0.0.1> as of 9/15/2024
1:33:09 PM

Post by Kerr-Mudd, John
On Sun, 15 Sep 2024 19:37:45 +0100

Post by Sam Plusnet

Post by Snidely

Post by guido wugi

Post by Snidely
In following along about eclipse prediction and the cycles thereof, I
ran across "exeligmos".  Clearly taken from the Greek (see the WP
article for the relevant orthography), but it looks like a compound
word, and I'm teased by wondering what is compounded.
The WP article skips that, and neither m-w dot com nor dictionary dot
com cover the word at all.  Does any party in this arena have an
exposition [1] of the agglomeration [2]?
This paragraph is just filler to provide beathing room before the
footnotes.  It would be a good place for end credits, but those
aren't available yet.  Perhaps we should bike-shed the title cards to
be used. I suggest a dusty orange.
[1] sorry, this is ex-latin
[2] so is this

If you want the etymology, my old Greek dico gives related words (with
ελισσω  to turn, twist,...
ελιγμος   coil, detour, vortex
ελιξ (helix!)  curly, spiral...
Generally: to turn (around, or messily, ...)
to turn out ~ to finish a cycle.
I guess (of the wheel of time).

Thanks ... that makes me feel a lot more satisfied.

Turn
Like a circle
In a spiral
Like a wheel
Within a wheel
Never ending
or beginning

Sounds to me (though IANAD,NDIPOOTV) as if you have windmills in mind.
Is it a bit breezy in there?

Let's glide past that whole affair.

-d

[Peter Moylan]

Post by Sam Plusnet
Turn
Like a circle
In a spiral
Like a wheel
Within a wheel
Never ending
or beginning

When I was a young child, I had a "bunny plate": a child's bowl with a
picture in the middle of something involving rabbits, and a line of
rabbits running around the edge. I imagine that an approximate
equivalent exists in other countries.

That line of rabbits running in a circle fascinated me, because the line
never ended. It was my first introduction to infinity.

My second introduction to infinity was the mirrors in a barber shop.

[Peter Moylan]

Post by Peter Moylan
That line of rabbits running in a circle fascinated me, because the
line never ended. It was my first introduction to infinity.
My second introduction to infinity was the mirrors in a barber shop.

Oh, and how could I forget Willy Weeties? The Weeties box had a big
picture on the front of Willie Weeties holding up a box of Weeties. And
of course the box he was holding had a picture of ...

[Athel Cornish-Bowden]

Post by Peter Moylan

Post by Peter Moylan
That line of rabbits running in a circle fascinated me, because the
line never ended. It was my first introduction to infinity.
My second introduction to infinity was the mirrors in a barber shop.

Oh, and how could I forget Willy Weeties? The Weeties box had a big
picture on the front of Willie Weeties holding up a box of Weeties. And
of course the box he was holding had a picture of ...

In Bourton-on-the-Water in the Cotswolds there is a model of
Bourton-on-the-Water, in the appropriate corner of which there is a
model of the model, in the appropriate corner of which there is a model
of the model of the model. I think it stops there.

[Bertel Lund Hansen]

Post by Peter Moylan
Oh, and how could I forget Willy Weeties? The Weeties box had a big
picture on the front of Willie Weeties holding up a box of Weeties. And
of course the box he was holding had a picture of ...

In Denmark we had "Solgryn" ("sun-grain" - quaker oats) with a similar
drawing.

[guido wugi]

Post by Bertel Lund Hansen

Post by Peter Moylan
Oh, and how could I forget Willy Weeties? The Weeties box had a big
picture on the front of Willie Weeties holding up a box of Weeties. And
of course the box he was holding had a picture of ...

In Denmark we had "Solgryn" ("sun-grain" - quaker oats) with a similar
drawing.

The Droste effect:
https://www.josleys.com/show_gallery.php?galid=291

[Bertel Lund Hansen]

Post by Peter Moylan
My second introduction to infinity was the mirrors in a barber shop.

An early introduction for me was competing with my sister about naming
the largest number. She just said "+ 1" every time i had a suggestion.

[musika]

Post by Peter Moylan

Post by Sam Plusnet
Turn
Like a circle
In a spiral
Like a wheel
Within a wheel
Never ending
or beginning

When I was a young child, I had a "bunny plate": a child's bowl with a
picture in the middle of something involving rabbits, and a line of
rabbits running around the edge. I imagine that an approximate
equivalent exists in other countries.

I still have mine. They were produced by Royal Doulton with the name
Bunnikins.

[Sam Plusnet]

Post by musika

Post by Peter Moylan

Post by Sam Plusnet
Turn
Like a circle
In a spiral
Like a wheel
Within a wheel
Never ending
or beginning

When I was a young child, I had a "bunny plate": a child's bowl with a
picture in the middle of something involving rabbits, and a line of
rabbits running around the edge. I imagine that an approximate
equivalent exists in other countries.

I still have mine. They were produced by Royal Doulton with the name
Bunnikins.

Surprising that they were popular in Australia. There must be a
disconnect between "bunnies" and "rabbits" in the popular imagination.

[Steve Hayes]

Post by musika

Post by Peter Moylan

Post by Sam Plusnet
Turn
Like a circle
In a spiral
Like a wheel
Within a wheel
Never ending
or beginning

When I was a young child, I had a "bunny plate": a child's bowl with a
picture in the middle of something involving rabbits, and a line of
rabbits running around the edge. I imagine that an approximate
equivalent exists in other countries.

I still have mine. They were produced by Royal Doulton with the name
Bunnikins.

I still have mine too, and the newer versions we got for our kids.

[occam]

Post by Peter Moylan

Post by Sam Plusnet
Turn
Like a circle
In a spiral
Like a wheel
Within a wheel
Never ending
or beginning

When I was a young child, I had a "bunny plate": a child's bowl with a
picture in the middle of something involving rabbits, and a line of
rabbits running around the edge. I imagine that an approximate
equivalent exists in other countries.
That line of rabbits running in a circle fascinated me, because the line
never ended. It was my first introduction to infinity.
My second introduction to infinity was the mirrors in a barber shop.

1,2,3,4... it never, never ends. That was my intro. Rabbits would have
been more fun, I agree.

[Anders D. Nygaard]

Post by Peter Moylan

Post by Sam Plusnet
Turn
Like a circle
In a spiral
Like a wheel
Within a wheel
Never ending
or beginning

When I was a young child, I had a "bunny plate": a child's bowl with a
picture in the middle of something involving rabbits, and a line of
rabbits running around the edge. I imagine that an approximate
equivalent exists in other countries.
That line of rabbits running in a circle fascinated me, because the line
never ended. It was my first introduction to infinity.
My second introduction to infinity was the mirrors in a barber shop.

My latest run-in with infinity was this
<https://sudokupad.app/eb90s76a4e>

/Anders, Denmark