Englisc

[Harrison Hill]

When I saw "white-coat-clad", I didn't think "doctor", I thought
Harold's House Carls - the "White Coats" - who fought with him to the
last man at Hastings.

"Two weeks after the battle at Stamford Bridge, Harold
Godwinson...left the North of England marching down to Sussex on the
English coast at legendary speed. 200 miles in 4 days with armour etc.
This makes the English the fastest marching warriors in history."

...which has always seemed to me extraordinary.

http://www.englandandenglishhistory.com/great-english-battles/the-battle-of-hastings-1066-ad

But what the hell is "Englisc"?

[Peter Duncanson (BrE)]

On Fri, 21 Jan 2011 14:14:14 -0800 (PST), Harrison Hill

Post by Harrison Hill
When I saw "white-coat-clad", I didn't think "doctor", I thought
Harold's House Carls - the "White Coats" - who fought with him to the
last man at Hastings.
"Two weeks after the battle at Stamford Bridge, Harold
Godwinson...left the North of England marching down to Sussex on the
English coast at legendary speed. 200 miles in 4 days with armour etc.
This makes the English the fastest marching warriors in history."
...which has always seemed to me extraordinary.
http://www.englandandenglishhistory.com/great-english-battles/the-battle-of-hastings-1066-ad
But what the hell is "Englisc"?

An Old Englisc spelling of English".

The first few spellings from the OED:

OE Æglisc , OE Æncglisc , OE Englesc , OE Onglisc , OE–eME Ænglis,
OE–eME Ænglisc, OE–eME Englisc, OE–eME Englissc , OE–ME Englis

There are 108 other spellings (assuming I've counted correctly) from
Late Old English onwards.

[John Lawler]

Post by Peter Duncanson (BrE)
On Fri, 21 Jan 2011 14:14:14 -0800 (PST), Harrison Hill

Post by Harrison Hill
When I saw "white-coat-clad", I didn't think "doctor", I thought
Harold's House Carls - the "White Coats" - who fought with him to the
last man at Hastings.
"Two weeks after the battle at Stamford Bridge, Harold
Godwinson...left the North of England marching down to Sussex on the
English coast at legendary speed. 200 miles in 4 days with armour etc.
This makes the English the fastest marching warriors in history."
...which has always seemed to me extraordinary.
http://www.englandandenglishhistory.com/great-english-battles/the-bat...
But what the hell is "Englisc"?

An Old Englisc spelling of English".
    OE Æglisc , OE Æncglisc , OE Englesc , OE Onglisc , OE–eME Ænglis,
    OE–eME Ænglisc, OE–eME Englisc, OE–eME Englissc , OE–ME Englis
There are 108 other spellings (assuming I've counted correctly) from
Late Old English onwards.
--
Peter Duncanson, UK
(in alt.usage.english)

That particular suffix is spelled -isch in German,
and -isk in Scandinavian languages. In OE, 'c'
represented /k/, just as it did in Latin. Later the
/k/ got palatalized to /ʃ/ in German and English.

Similar things happened to OE "scirt", which
became our "shirt". The same word, with the
same meaning, kept the /k/ under the Danish
influence of invasion and became "skirt".

-John Lawler http://www.umich.edu/~jlawler
"Language is the most massive and inclusive
art we know, a mountainous and anonymous
work of unconscious generations."
-- Edward Sapir

[Robert Bannister]

Post by John Lawler
That particular suffix is spelled -isch in German,
and -isk in Scandinavian languages. In OE, 'c'
represented /k/, just as it did in Latin. Later the
/k/ got palatalized to /ʃ/ in German and English.
Similar things happened to OE "scirt", which
became our "shirt". The same word, with the
same meaning, kept the /k/ under the Danish
influence of invasion and became "skirt".

Shows how short their skirts were that the poor English got them mixed
up with shirts. Or perhaps the English wore very long shirts and no
trousers.

[Steve Hayes]

Post by Harrison Hill
When I saw "white-coat-clad", I didn't think "doctor", I thought
Harold's House Carls - the "White Coats" - who fought with him to the
last man at Hastings.
"Two weeks after the battle at Stamford Bridge, Harold
Godwinson...left the North of England marching down to Sussex on the
English coast at legendary speed. 200 miles in 4 days with armour etc.
This makes the English the fastest marching warriors in history."
...which has always seemed to me extraordinary.
http://www.englandandenglishhistory.com/great-english-battles/the-battle-of-hastings-1066-ad
But what the hell is "Englisc"?

Eh?

I frequently hear "Stamford Bridge" in connection with a football club in the
south of England, and I can't think it is 200 miles from Hastings. I forget
which team it is...

Googles "Stamford Bridge football"

Ah, yes, Chelsea.

http://www.footballgroundguide.com/chelsea/

It's hardly 200 miles from Hastings, is it?

[Harrison Hill]

Post by Steve Hayes

Post by Harrison Hill
When I saw "white-coat-clad", I didn't think "doctor", I thought
Harold's House Carls - the "White Coats" - who fought with him to the
last man at Hastings.
"Two weeks after the battle at Stamford Bridge, Harold
Godwinson...left the North of England marching down to Sussex on the
English coast at legendary speed. 200 miles in 4 days with armour etc.
This makes the English the fastest marching warriors in history."
...which has always seemed to me extraordinary.
http://www.englandandenglishhistory.com/great-english-battles/the-bat...
But what the hell is "Englisc"?

Eh?
I frequently hear "Stamford Bridge" in connection with a football club in the
south of England, and I can't think it is 200 miles from  Hastings. I forget
which team it is...
Googles "Stamford Bridge football"
Ah, yes, Chelsea.
http://www.footballgroundguide.com/chelsea/
It's hardly 200 miles from Hastings, is it?

You are in a city founded by the Romans in 43 AD whereas you should be
in a city founded by the Romans in 71 AD.

York to Hastings is well over 200 miles - as the crow flies!