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better ways to phrase these? 1) This animal's behavior is interesting to study.
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HenHanna
2024-10-28 00:56:53 UTC
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better ways to phrase these?

1) This animal's behavior is interesting to study.
2) This animal's behavior is interesting for us to study.
3) This animal's behavior is compelling to study.
4) This animal's behavior is compelling for us to study.

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You're right! The phrase "This animal's behavior is compelling to study"
can indeed sound awkward or overly formal.

While it's grammatically correct, it might not feel as natural in casual
conversation or writing.

Alternative Suggestions: To improve clarity and flow, you might
consider:

"Studying this animal's behavior is compelling."
"This animal's behavior makes for a compelling study."
"The study of this animal's behavior is fascinating."

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Here are some alternative phrasings for each sentence:

This animal's behavior offers fascinating insights for study.

This animal's behavior presents an intriguing opportunity for our
research.

This animal's behavior is captivating for research purposes.

This animal's behavior provides a compelling subject for our
investigation.

Feel free to mix and match elements from these suggestions to best suit
your context!


_________________________All of 1-4 seem typical Navi-ese.


[XXX is interesting to study.] seems artificial, like
the famous sentence [La plume de ma tante...]


You're correct in noting that "XXX is interesting to study" can sound
somewhat artificial or overly formal, reminiscent of the famous example
"La plume de ma tante est sur la table."

Reasons for the Artificiality:

Passive Construction: The structure can feel indirect or detached,
lacking engagement with the subject.

Overused Phrase: It's a common construction that may come off as clichéd
or uninspired.

Alternative Phrasings: To make it more engaging, consider these
options:



"Studying XXX reveals fascinating insights."

"There’s much to learn from studying XXX."

"XXX offers an intriguing perspective for exploration."
Hibou
2024-10-28 08:23:44 UTC
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Post by HenHanna
better ways to phrase these?
1) This animal's behavior is interesting to study.
2) This animal's behavior is interesting for us to study.
3) This animal's behavior is compelling to study.
4) This animal's behavior is compelling for us to study.
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You're right! The phrase "This animal's behavior is compelling to study"
can indeed sound awkward or overly formal. [...]
Seeing this, I am reminded of how much I respect Bertel, Jan, Silvano,
and the other non-native English speakers who step boldly into this
forum, posting their own words, not hiding behind the unattributed
output of some AI or other.

Bravo!
Kerr-Mudd, John
2024-11-01 12:33:10 UTC
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Post by HenHanna
better ways to phrase these?
1) This animal's behavior is interesting to study.
2) This animal's behavior is interesting for us to study.
3) This animal's behavior is compelling to study.
4) This animal's behavior is compelling for us to study.
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You're right! The phrase "This animal's behavior is compelling to =
study"
can indeed sound awkward or overly formal. [...]
Seeing this, I am reminded of how much I respect Bertel, Jan, Silvano,=
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and the other non-native English speakers who step boldly into this =
forum, posting their own words, not hiding behind the unattributed =
output of some AI or other.
Bravo!
ISTM AI is only being used by some people on Usenet who know narthing to=
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pretend that they do; falling badly flat as the AI waffle is painfully =

obvious - and all this uses large amounts of electric in massive server =
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farms. Please don't!
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Bah, and indeed, Humbug
Christian Weisgerber
2024-11-08 19:26:48 UTC
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Post by Kerr-Mudd, John
ISTM AI is only being used by some people on Usenet who know narthing to
pretend that they do; falling badly flat as the AI waffle is painfully
obvious
I'm aware of two posters who regularly use AI services:
* HenHanna, who uses AI chatbots as knowledge engines, which they
manifestly aren't.
* Stefan Ram, who uses AI as a writing tool to rewrite his articles
into "colloquial" English, resulting in bizarrely inappropriate
language.
--
Christian "naddy" Weisgerber ***@mips.inka.de
Silvano
2024-11-09 00:02:36 UTC
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Post by Kerr-Mudd, John
ISTM AI is only being used by some people on Usenet who know narthing to
pretend that they do; falling badly flat as the AI waffle is painfully
obvious
* HenHanna, who uses AI chatbots as knowledge engines, which they
manifestly aren't.
* Stefan Ram, who uses AI as a writing tool to rewrite his articles
into "colloquial" English, resulting in bizarrely inappropriate
language.
One of the reasons why many, perhaps even most readers here plonk them.
Athel Cornish-Bowden
2024-11-09 08:34:17 UTC
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Post by Kerr-Mudd, John
ISTM AI is only being used by some people on Usenet who know narthing to
pretend that they do; falling badly flat as the AI waffle is painfully
obvious
* HenHanna, who uses AI chatbots as knowledge engines, which they
manifestly aren't.
* Stefan Ram, who uses AI as a writing tool to rewrite his articles
into "colloquial" English, resulting in bizarrely inappropriate
language.
Right on both counts.
--
Athel -- French and British, living in Marseilles for 37 years; mainly
in England until 1987.
HenHanna
2024-11-08 20:36:21 UTC
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Post by HenHanna
better ways to phrase these?
1) This animal's behavior is interesting to study.
2) This animal's behavior is interesting for us to study.
3) This animal's behavior is compelling to study.
4) This animal's behavior is compelling for us to study.
__________________________
You're right! The phrase "This animal's behavior is compelling to study"
can indeed sound awkward or overly formal. [...]
Seeing this, I am reminded of how much I respect Bertel, Jan, Silvano,
and the other non-native English speakers who step boldly into this
forum, posting their own words, not hiding behind the unattributed
output of some AI or other.
Bravo!
It makes sense that [non-native English speakers]
wuld be more interested in responding to these questions.


Wasn't it a Dutch guy who wrote that famous poem
about English spelling?


For us... it's like answering questions in math
like how to multiply 2 negative numbvers
or explaining why 0.999999999.... and 1 are the same, etc.



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