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occam
2024-11-26 08:45:42 UTC
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Black Friday notifications are arriving earlier and earlier! Yesterday
(a Monday) I had my first notification. Not unlike Christmas, which
arrives a little earlier every year.

It's going to be a week of Black Fridays.

All we need now is a Muslim version and a Jewish version, and the
analogy will be complete.
Bertel Lund Hansen
2024-11-26 09:07:54 UTC
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Post by occam
Black Friday notifications are arriving earlier and earlier! Yesterday
(a Monday) I had my first notification. Not unlike Christmas, which
arrives a little earlier every year.
In Denmark I have seen "Black Month".

Somehow it's suitable. The world is rather black in these times.
--
Bertel
Kolt, Denmark
charles
2024-11-26 09:15:02 UTC
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Post by occam
Black Friday notifications are arriving earlier and earlier! Yesterday
(a Monday) I had my first notification.
I've been getting them for over a week. You are obviously in some time trap.
Post by occam
Not unlike Christmas, which arrives a little earlier every year.
It's going to be a week of Black Fridays.
All we need now is a Muslim version and a Jewish version, and the
analogy will be complete.
and a "Donald" version!
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from KT24 in Surrey, England - sent from my RISC OS 4té²
"I'd rather die of exhaustion than die of boredom" Thomas Carlyle
Sam Plusnet
2024-11-26 18:56:44 UTC
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Post by occam
Black Friday notifications are arriving earlier and earlier! Yesterday
(a Monday) I had my first notification.
I've been getting them for over a week. You are obviously in some time trap.
But at least we can discuss this on an equal footing.
The first Cuckoo of spring is more problematic in an world wide forum.
--
Sam Plusnet
Peter Moylan
2024-11-26 10:21:18 UTC
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Black Friday notifications are arriving earlier and earlier!
Yesterday (a Monday) I had my first notification. Not unlike
Christmas, which arrives a little earlier every year.
It's going to be a week of Black Fridays.
All we need now is a Muslim version and a Jewish version, and the
analogy will be complete.
Black Friday is a major event in Australian modern history, and to me it
will always refer to the disastrous 1938-39 bushfire season, even though
that happened before I was born. It is recorded that on Friday 13
January 1939 the whole state of Victoria was alight. (And conditions in
other states were also bad.)

We've had some bad bushfire seasons since then, and the Ash Wednesday
fires of 1983 and the Black Saturday fires of 2009 resulted in more
deaths, but this has not dimmed the national memory of Black Friday.

Now we're at the beginning of Summer, with previews of the probable
record-breaking temperatures to come, and the likelihood of bad
bushfires in the next few months. In the circumstances, I find the flood
of e-mails promoting Black Friday to be tasteless in the extreme. This
is an American celebration we do not need.
--
Peter Moylan ***@pmoylan.org http://www.pmoylan.org
Newcastle, NSW
Athel Cornish-Bowden
2024-11-26 11:09:11 UTC
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Black Friday notifications are arriving earlier and earlier! Yesterday
(a Monday) I had my first notification. Not unlike Christmas, which
arrives a little earlier every year.
It's going to be a week of Black Fridays.
I find Black Friday very irritating.

As for Christmas, I can watch the following films today if I so wish (I
don't): Coup de foudre royal à Noël; La fabuleuse parade de Noël; Le
diplôme de Noël; Noël à Crystal Falls; Un vœu d'amour pour Noël;
Marchés de Noël en folie, Folie de Noël: décoration XXL, marchés.
That's counting only the ones I don't have to pay to watch. It's been
like that at least since mid-October.
Post by occam
All we need now is a Muslim version and a Jewish version, and the
analogy will be complete.
--
Athel -- French and British, living in Marseilles for 37 years; mainly
in England until 1987.
Steve Hayes
2024-11-27 03:56:32 UTC
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On Tue, 26 Nov 2024 12:09:11 +0100, Athel Cornish-Bowden
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Post by occam
Black Friday notifications are arriving earlier and earlier! Yesterday
(a Monday) I had my first notification. Not unlike Christmas, which
arrives a little earlier every year.
It's going to be a week of Black Fridays.
I find Black Friday very irritating.
When Facebook shows me any ads that have the words "Black Friday" in
them, I mark them to hide as not relevant, as in South Africa we have
no Fridays in November that fall between a public holiday and a long
weekend.

I assume it is significant in in the US because it is a day when many
people have a day off work but the shops are not shut, so they have
leisure for shopping.
--
Steve Hayes from Tshwane, South Africa
Web: http://www.khanya.org.za/stevesig.htm
Blog: http://khanya.wordpress.com
E-mail - see web page, or parse: shayes at dunelm full stop org full stop uk
Paul Carmichael
2024-11-26 11:21:32 UTC
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Black Friday notifications are arriving earlier and earlier! Yesterday
(a Monday) I had my first notification. Not unlike Christmas, which
arrives a little earlier every year.
It's going to be a week of Black Fridays.
I just ordered a food processor and an air fryer with BF discounts that
were obviously just too tempting for me.

Ninjakitchen.
--
Paul.

https://paulc.es
Bertel Lund Hansen
2024-11-26 12:33:14 UTC
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I just ordered a food processor and an air fryer with BF discounts that
were obviously just too tempting for me.
Did you check that the discount was real? In Denmark there are items
that cost more (or the same) on BF than otherwise. They are still
presented as bargains. And some people buy them.
--
Bertel
Kolt, Denmark
Paul Carmichael
2024-11-26 14:20:42 UTC
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Post by Paul Carmichael
I just ordered a food processor and an air fryer with BF discounts that
were obviously just too tempting for me.
Did you check that the discount was real? In Denmark there are items
that cost more (or the same) on BF than otherwise. They are still
presented as bargains. And some people buy them.
Our daughter buys from them all the time and assured me that the
discounts were real.
--
Paul.

https://paulc.es
Athel Cornish-Bowden
2024-11-26 15:29:23 UTC
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Post by Paul Carmichael
I just ordered a food processor and an air fryer with BF discounts that
were obviously just too tempting for me.
Did you check that the discount was real? In Denmark there are items
that cost more (or the same) on BF than otherwise. They are still
presented as bargains. And some people buy them.
Aren't there laws about that? There are in France. Shops can't offer a
bargain unless they've been selling the item for at least a month (I
think) at the higher price that they claim to be reduced.
--
Athel -- French and British, living in Marseilles for 37 years; mainly
in England until 1987.
Bertel Lund Hansen
2024-11-26 18:15:57 UTC
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Post by Bertel Lund Hansen
Did you check that the discount was real? In Denmark there are items
that cost more (or the same) on BF than otherwise. They are still
presented as bargains. And some people buy them.
Aren't there laws about that?
Sure.
Post by Athel Cornish-Bowden
There are in France. Shops can't offer a
bargain unless they've been selling the item for at least a month (I
think) at the higher price that they claim to be reduced.
We have something similar. But since we had a prime minister who
believed in "the minimal state", our control systems are running on a
minimum. And some people go mad when they see "sale/offer/tilbud/rabat".
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Bertel
Kolt, Denmark
Rich Ulrich
2024-11-27 05:38:13 UTC
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On Tue, 26 Nov 2024 16:29:23 +0100, Athel Cornish-Bowden
Post by Athel Cornish-Bowden
Post by Bertel Lund Hansen
Post by Paul Carmichael
I just ordered a food processor and an air fryer with BF discounts that
were obviously just too tempting for me.
Did you check that the discount was real? In Denmark there are items
that cost more (or the same) on BF than otherwise. They are still
presented as bargains. And some people buy them.
Aren't there laws about that? There are in France. Shops can't offer a
bargain unless they've been selling the item for at least a month (I
think) at the higher price that they claim to be reduced.
In the US, these laws could be state or local, and I know that
they USED to vary all over the place. I don't know if "standards"
for state laws eventually cleaned this up.

Google -- okay, the Federal Trade Commission now has rules.
https://www.classaction.org/fake-sale-prices-lawsuit

That website is dated September of this year, and names
several organizations that are presently targets, and mentions
some other recent offenders. So the practices still exist.

Forty ears ago in Pittsburgh, mattresses were a notorious
example of something ALWAYS offered on sale. In a response to
some law requiring that "sale price" had to be a reduction, some
stores had resorted to an occasional single day for a high price
in order to make the "sale price" a legal claim.

I assume that a sales clerk could have said, "But it will be on sale
tomorrow. That is as soon as we could deliver it, so ..."
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Rich Ulrich
Sam Plusnet
2024-11-27 18:58:05 UTC
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On Tue, 26 Nov 2024 16:29:23 +0100, Athel Cornish-Bowden
Post by Athel Cornish-Bowden
Post by Bertel Lund Hansen
Post by Paul Carmichael
I just ordered a food processor and an air fryer with BF discounts that
were obviously just too tempting for me.
Did you check that the discount was real? In Denmark there are items
that cost more (or the same) on BF than otherwise. They are still
presented as bargains. And some people buy them.
Aren't there laws about that? There are in France. Shops can't offer a
bargain unless they've been selling the item for at least a month (I
think) at the higher price that they claim to be reduced.
In the US, these laws could be state or local, and I know that
they USED to vary all over the place. I don't know if "standards"
for state laws eventually cleaned this up.
Google -- okay, the Federal Trade Commission now has rules.
https://www.classaction.org/fake-sale-prices-lawsuit
That website is dated September of this year, and names
several organizations that are presently targets, and mentions
some other recent offenders. So the practices still exist.
Forty ears ago in Pittsburgh, mattresses were a notorious
example of something ALWAYS offered on sale. In a response to
some law requiring that "sale price" had to be a reduction, some
stores had resorted to an occasional single day for a high price
in order to make the "sale price" a legal claim.
I assume that a sales clerk could have said, "But it will be on sale
tomorrow. That is as soon as we could deliver it, so ..."
Here in the UK at one time (the law may have changed so that this is no
longer needed), a large chain of shops would have one of their smaller
branches offer an item at 'list price' for a period of time, and then at
'sale price' in all their branches.
--
Sam Plusnet
jerryfriedman
2024-11-26 15:31:29 UTC
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Post by occam
Black Friday notifications are arriving earlier and earlier! Yesterday
(a Monday) I had my first notification. Not unlike Christmas, which
arrives a little earlier every year.
It's going to be a week of Black Fridays.
Here in the home of Black Friday, I've been seeing ads for
two or three seeks, and yes, the sales or supposed sales
have started already.
Post by occam
All we need now is a Muslim version and a Jewish version, and the
analogy will be complete.
There's a Muslim version of Christmas?

--
Jerry Friedman

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Sam Plusnet
2024-11-26 19:04:08 UTC
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Post by occam
Black Friday notifications are arriving earlier and earlier! Yesterday
(a Monday) I had my first notification.  Not unlike Christmas, which
arrives a little earlier every year.
It's going to be a week of Black Fridays.
Here in the home of Black Friday, I've been seeing ads for
two or three seeks, and yes, the sales or supposed sales
have started already.
Post by occam
All we need now is a Muslim version and a Jewish version, and the
analogy will be complete.
There's a Muslim version of Christmas?
Celebration of Eid might come close - at least in some places.
--
Sam Plusnet
occam
2024-11-26 23:12:50 UTC
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Post by occam
Black Friday notifications are arriving earlier and earlier! Yesterday
(a Monday) I had my first notification.  Not unlike Christmas, which
arrives a little earlier every year.
It's going to be a week of Black Fridays.
Here in the home of Black Friday, I've been seeing ads for
two or three seeks, and yes, the sales or supposed sales
have started already.
Post by occam
All we need now is a Muslim version and a Jewish version, and the
analogy will be complete.
There's a Muslim version of Christmas?
I had Eid in mind.
"Eid al-Fitr is celebrated by Muslims worldwide because it marks the end
of the month-long dawn-to-dusk fasting of Ramadan."

Apparently instituted by Mohammad, though not exactly Christmas, it's a
celebration lasting 2-3 days. (wiki)
Steve Hayes
2024-11-27 03:50:43 UTC
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Black Friday notifications are arriving earlier and earlier! Yesterday
(a Monday) I had my first notification. Not unlike Christmas, which
arrives a little earlier every year.
It's going to be a week of Black Fridays.
All we need now is a Muslim version and a Jewish version, and the
analogy will be complete.
We are now getting "Black November", which sounds like a new terrorist
group.
--
Steve Hayes from Tshwane, South Africa
Web: http://www.khanya.org.za/stevesig.htm
Blog: http://khanya.wordpress.com
E-mail - see web page, or parse: shayes at dunelm full stop org full stop uk
occam
2024-11-27 08:13:36 UTC
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Post by occam
Black Friday notifications are arriving earlier and earlier! Yesterday
(a Monday) I had my first notification. Not unlike Christmas, which
arrives a little earlier every year.
It's going to be a week of Black Fridays.
All we need now is a Muslim version and a Jewish version, and the
analogy will be complete.
We are now getting "Black November", which sounds like a new terrorist
group.
<smile> I'm all in favour of colour-coding months, given that the
semi-literates are taking over the world. 'Red October', 'Black
November', 'White December' ... etc.

'Orange January' is already being spotlighted in the US as the month of
the takeover of the dimwit and his cronies.
occam
2024-11-30 09:09:22 UTC
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Black Friday notifications are arriving earlier and earlier! Yesterday
(a Monday) I had my first notification. Not unlike Christmas, which
arrives a little earlier every year.
It's going to be a week of Black Fridays.
Behold! A Miracle!

'Black Friday' - having been and gone - has metamorphosed into 'Cyber
Monday'.

Well, 'metamorphosed' is the wrong word. It's still the same con.
Nothing has changed.
Sam Plusnet
2024-11-30 19:26:49 UTC
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Post by occam
Black Friday notifications are arriving earlier and earlier! Yesterday
(a Monday) I had my first notification. Not unlike Christmas, which
arrives a little earlier every year.
It's going to be a week of Black Fridays.
Behold! A Miracle!
'Black Friday' - having been and gone - has metamorphosed into 'Cyber
Monday'.
Well, 'metamorphosed' is the wrong word. It's still the same con.
Nothing has changed.
Amazon's Black Friday seems to be 12 days long.
--
Sam Plusnet
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