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Thou Shalt Not Commit Adultery actually means do not race mix, not do not cheat
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Australia Wants Moralism, not Moralising.
2008-02-15 16:45:44 UTC
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Everybody thinks the seventh commadment 'You shall not commit
adultery.' has something to do with cheating on your spouse.

IT DOES NOT MEAN THAT. There is another commandment that covers that:

TEN: 'You shall not covet your neighbor's wife.' So what does adultery
mean? Let's look in the dictionary:

Adulterate - debase, make impure by adding a foreign substance.

Have you heard the phrase "pure, unadulterated"?

There you have it. Race mixing is outlawed in the Ten Commadments, but
even the Ten Commandments have been twisted in the zionist cultural
cesspool we have been born into..
R H Draney
2008-02-15 18:30:19 UTC
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Post by Australia Wants Moralism, not Moralising.
Everybody thinks the seventh commadment 'You shall not commit
adultery.' has something to do with cheating on your spouse.
TEN: 'You shall not covet your neighbor's wife.' So what does adultery
Adulterate - debase, make impure by adding a foreign substance.
Have you heard the phrase "pure, unadulterated"?
There you have it. Race mixing is outlawed in the Ten Commadments, but
even the Ten Commandments have been twisted in the zionist cultural
cesspool we have been born into..
Why don't you go honor your father and mother, you false witness you....r
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Evan Kirshenbaum
2008-02-15 19:31:43 UTC
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Post by Australia Wants Moralism, not Moralising.
Everybody thinks the seventh commadment 'You shall not commit
adultery.' has something to do with cheating on your spouse.
TEN: 'You shall not covet your neighbor's wife.' So what does adultery
Adulterate - debase, make impure by adding a foreign substance.
Have you heard the phrase "pure, unadulterated"?
There you have it. Race mixing is outlawed in the Ten Commadments,
but even the Ten Commandments have been twisted in the zionist
cultural cesspool we have been born into..
Apparently the word was mistranslated into Hebrew from the original
English. Don't you hate it when that happens?

FWIW, the Oxford _Jewish Study Bible_ says

In the Bible this refers to voluntary sexual relations between a
married or engaged woman and a man other than her husband. It did
not refer to the extramarital relations of a married man (in
polygamous societies a wife might share her husband with other
wives and did not have an exclusive right to him).
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John Kane
2008-02-15 23:34:42 UTC
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Post by Australia Wants Moralism, not Moralising.
Everybody thinks the seventh commadment 'You shall not commit
adultery.' has something to do with cheating on your spouse.
TEN: 'You shall not covet your neighbor's wife.' So what does adultery
Adulterate - debase, make impure by adding a foreign substance.
Have you heard the phrase "pure, unadulterated"?
There you have it. Race mixing is outlawed in the Ten Commadments,
but even the Ten Commandments have been twisted in the zionist
cultural cesspool we have been born into..
Apparently the word was mistranslated into Hebrew from the original
English. Don't you hate it when that happens?
FWIW, the Oxford _Jewish Study Bible_ says
In the Bible this refers to voluntary sexual relations between a
married or engaged woman and a man other than her husband. It did
not refer to the extramarital relations of a married man (in
polygamous societies a wife might share her husband with other
wives and did not have an exclusive right to him).
I believe I read that one of the original English translations ( Harry
the 8th Great Bible perhaps) left out the "not" but unfortunately it was
caught before the book was released.
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Evan Kirshenbaum
2008-02-15 23:53:03 UTC
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I believe I read that one of the original English translations (
Harry the 8th Great Bible perhaps) left out the "not" but
unfortunately it was caught before the book was released.
The so-called "Wicked Bible" of 1631. Apparently copies (anywhere
from five to twelve, according to various sources) still exist.
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R H Draney
2008-02-15 21:01:39 UTC
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Post by Australia Wants Moralism, not Moralising.
Everybody thinks the seventh commadment 'You shall not commit
adultery.' has something to do with cheating on your spouse.
My favorite biblical commandment isn't one of the Ten...it's Deuteronomy 19:14:
"thou shalt not pull up survey stakes"....r
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Evan Kirshenbaum
2008-02-15 21:56:18 UTC
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Post by R H Draney
Post by Australia Wants Moralism, not Moralising.
Everybody thinks the seventh commadment 'You shall not commit
adultery.' has something to do with cheating on your spouse.
My favorite biblical commandment isn't one of the Ten...it's
Deuteronomy 19:14: "thou shalt not pull up survey stakes"....r
In an era in which land grants were typically stated in terms of
boundary markers, I can certainly see that moving them to increase
your holdings (and decrease your neighbor's) would be seen as a pretty
severe crime. It's a clear form of theft. The _Jewish Study Bible_
says that

the sacrosanct status of a _landmark_ (lit. "boundary marker") was
a legal tradition in the ancient Near East.

This verse is part of the "Law Code", evidently inserted into
Deuteronomy. The same idea shows up later in the book, written by the
Deuteronomist:

Cursed be he who moves his fellow countryman's landmark [27:17]

(The JSB has a note here that this "cursed" is a different Hebrew word
than the one used to imply divine punishment. This just one indicates
that the actions are stigmatized.)

It's interesting that in this particular set of prohibited actions,
which include bestiality (27:21) and incest (27:20, 22-23), there's no
explicit mention of homosexuality. Only the author of the "Holiness
Code" inserted in the middle of Leviticus (17-26) actually seems to
have thought that it was worth mentioning.
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John Kane
2008-02-15 23:40:23 UTC
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Post by R H Draney
Post by Australia Wants Moralism, not Moralising.
Everybody thinks the seventh commadment 'You shall not commit
adultery.' has something to do with cheating on your spouse.
My favorite biblical commandment isn't one of the Ten...it's
Deuteronomy 19:14: "thou shalt not pull up survey stakes"....r
In an era in which land grants were typically stated in terms of
boundary markers, I can certainly see that moving them to increase
your holdings (and decrease your neighbor's) would be seen as a pretty
severe crime.
It still is at least in Canada. I think it rates a maximum of 5 to 10
years in prison here.

It's a clear form of theft. The _Jewish Study Bible_
Post by Evan Kirshenbaum
says that
the sacrosanct status of a _landmark_ (lit. "boundary marker") was
a legal tradition in the ancient Near East.
This verse is part of the "Law Code", evidently inserted into
Deuteronomy. The same idea shows up later in the book, written by the
Cursed be he who moves his fellow countryman's landmark [27:17]
(The JSB has a note here that this "cursed" is a different Hebrew word
than the one used to imply divine punishment. This just one indicates
that the actions are stigmatized.)
It's interesting that in this particular set of prohibited actions,
which include bestiality (27:21) and incest (27:20, 22-23), there's no
explicit mention of homosexuality. Only the author of the "Holiness
Code" inserted in the middle of Leviticus (17-26) actually seems to
have thought that it was worth mentioning.
Never mind the bestiality and incest, moving a survey stake is a serious
crime.
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John Kane, Kingston ON Canada
Skitt
2008-02-15 22:19:10 UTC
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Post by R H Draney
My favorite biblical commandment isn't one of the Ten...it's
Deuteronomy 19:14: "thou shalt not pull up survey stakes"....r
As a former head chainman and rod man on a survey party, I totally agree.
Replacing pulled up survey stakes is a pain.
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where is my chain and plumb bob?
John Kane
2008-02-15 23:37:17 UTC
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Post by R H Draney
Post by Australia Wants Moralism, not Moralising.
Everybody thinks the seventh commadment 'You shall not commit
adultery.' has something to do with cheating on your spouse.
"thou shalt not pull up survey stakes"....r
Now that is one that I can definitely support. It is hard enough
finding the blasted things without someone pulling them up. We had some
idiots steal a bench mark once that our property's survey was base on.
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John Kane, Kingston ON Canada
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2020-07-26 05:20:15 UTC
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Adultery is the removal of something's purity. Including sexual relationships.
I've known any number of crossbred people and most seem to better than the average when it comes to being better.
But, interracial relationships do make me question the matter of adultery. Where it is a new phenomena. As is the behaviors that have gotten worse. 2 Timothy 3 says a mouthful as does Daniel 12. I never have been able to get anyone to clearly express Daniel 12, where people will be coming to and from, which today's transportation, they sure do. Knowledge would be increased, well the 20th century, technology has advanced faster than all centuries combined. Get a priest to explain it any other way and I'm all ears. None seem to want to touch that.
Which its not just America, it's worldwide. People giving and taking in.marriage. divorce is rampant.
I have my own predispositions in life, so I'm not very judgemental I'll assure you. But so much seems to be on course.
Which we have a society which will not endure sound doctrine as prophesied! Where if a priest taught not to marry interracial, he might fear repercussions. Rightfully so.
As myself, I won't condone them. I can't as in the back of my mind, it doesn't seem right. Which Job also states by a question, doesn't even nature teach you Gods' will? Where you don't see mule deer crossbreeding with whitetails. You don't see swamp rabbits crossing with cottontails, you don't see fox squirrels crossing with grey squirrels. Then what I've studied in psychology about it, there's issues.
Which the world does not care what God wants, they want what they want to do.
Which if a guy has only a certain type woman around, his desires can override his choices he'd made otherwise.
Same with a woman.
Where again, I have my faults but I acknowledge them rather than justify them. It's different to be high-minded and justify ones self while denying God. That's Orthodox. You admit your faults, not try to justify them. The ideal anyway. Now again, theres a younger generation of priests that may not be bold enough to address such. Then a church could fear repercussions as theres a lot of hateful people racists against the faithful as well as God. Which I tried to escape such long ago, but my ideals, values, view, pursuits didn't matter and got trashed as well as me.
But, we don't know what degree things have to get.
I'd like this addressed being real. As in Revelations it speaks of a nation full of adulteries. The U.S. does fit that.
Ain't nothing pure hardly. Mix metals which is adulterating it's called alloys, mixing plants is called hybrid. Just a couple examples. Where I am curious, where it may only be an angel.or God to answer.
Madhu
2020-07-26 08:49:34 UTC
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Adultery is the removal of something's purity.
No that's Adulteration. Similar etymology but I think it is a different
word from adultery (especially as used in the bible)
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Including sexual relationships. I've known any number of crossbred
people and most seem to better than the average when it comes to being
better. But, interracial relationships do make me question the matter
of adultery. Where it is a new phenomena. As is the behaviors that
have gotten worse.
Now I am not an advocate of interracial (or even same-gotra) sex, but I
think your exegesis suffers from a lack of the wisdom which the sages
had. For eg.They see the reference to adultery denoting laxness in the
study of the bible.

"Whoso committeth adultery with a woman lacketh understanding.
[prov. 6:32] Resh Lakish said: This alludes to one who studies the
Torah at [irregular] intervals, [as adultery is natually committed]
as it is written, For it is a pleasant thing if thou keep them within
thee; they shall withal be fitted in thy lips. [Prov. 22:18 - one can
keep the Torah only if its words are fitted --- on his lips, not at
rare intervals]. -- Sanh.99b (soncino text and footnotes)

Not to justify adultery, of course. It is deeply related to idolatry -
and it would offend god even if interracial marriage did not.
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As is the behaviors that have gotten worse. 2 Timothy 3 says a
mouthful as does Daniel 12. I never have been able to get anyone to
clearly express Daniel 12, where people will be coming to and from,
which today's transportation, they sure do.
Daniel 12 is perspicuously clear. I think you are referring to Daniel
2:33 of the rulers of the fourth kingdom. His legs of iron, his feet
part of iron and part of clay. Indeed think could is the marriage
alliance contracted by the house of Rotschild and the house of Saud.
Peter Moylan
2020-07-26 09:25:30 UTC
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Post by Madhu
Not to justify adultery, of course. It is deeply related to idolatry -
Because it has the same consonants? That sounds like a feeble connection.
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micky
2020-07-27 09:06:43 UTC
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In alt.usage.english, on Sun, 26 Jul 2020 14:19:34 +0530, Madhu
Post by Madhu
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Adultery is the removal of something's purity.
No that's Adulteration. Similar etymology but I think it is a different
word from adultery (especially as used in the bible)
Right. Since neither word is used in Hebrew.
Post by Madhu
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Including sexual relationships. I've known any number of crossbred
people and most seem to better than the average when it comes to being
better. But, interracial relationships do make me question the matter
of adultery. Where it is a new phenomena. As is the behaviors that
have gotten worse.
Interracial relationships have nothing to do with adultery.

And God has no problem with interracial relationships, that's just your
nonsense.
Post by Madhu
Now I am not an advocate of interracial (or even same-gotra) sex, but I
think your exegesis suffers from a lack of the wisdom which the sages
had. For eg.They see the reference to adultery denoting laxness in the
study of the bible.
"Whoso committeth adultery with a woman lacketh understanding.
[prov. 6:32] Resh Lakish said: This alludes to one who studies the
Torah at [irregular] intervals, [as adultery is natually committed]
as it is written, For it is a pleasant thing if thou keep them within
thee; they shall withal be fitted in thy lips. [Prov. 22:18 - one can
keep the Torah only if its words are fitted --- on his lips, not at
rare intervals]. -- Sanh.99b (soncino text and footnotes)
Not to justify adultery, of course. It is deeply related to idolatry -
Even if some discussions bring in idolatry (and I don't see it here),
the prohibition is independent of idolatry.
Post by Madhu
and it would offend god even if interracial marriage did not.
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As is the behaviors that have gotten worse. 2 Timothy 3 says a
mouthful as does Daniel 12. I never have been able to get anyone to
clearly express Daniel 12, where people will be coming to and from,
which today's transportation, they sure do.
Daniel 12 is perspicuously clear. I think you are referring to Daniel
2:33 of the rulers of the fourth kingdom. His legs of iron, his feet
part of iron and part of clay. Indeed think could is the marriage
alliance contracted by the house of Rotschild and the house of Saud.
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