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Heavy floods - red alert in Andalusia
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Silvano
2024-11-01 07:03:51 UTC
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Are you all right, Paul?
Paul Carmichael
2024-11-01 08:35:13 UTC
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Post by Silvano
Are you all right, Paul?
Yes, thank you. It has rained here, but most of the death and destruction
has been more east (Valencia) and west (Cádiz).

For us it has been something positive, as we have been in drought for
years.

Last evening the TV was showing incredible scenes of destruction.
Apparently, a lot of people died when trying to extract their cars from
basement car parks. Very sad.
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HVS
2024-11-01 10:02:23 UTC
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Post by Silvano
Are you all right, Paul?
Yes, thank you. It has rained here, but most of the death and
destruction has been more east (Valencia) and west (Cádiz).
For us it has been something positive, as we have been in drought
for years.
Last evening the TV was showing incredible scenes of destruction.
Apparently, a lot of people died when trying to extract their cars
from basement car parks. Very sad.
Yes, that is very sad indeed. It's also one of those cases that in
retrospect was clearly the wrong thing to do, but at the time would
have been an entirely rational response.

Many years ago, a woman died in the car park of a health centre
behind the house we were then living in, when her car was crushed by
a large tree branch that fell in a severe wind storm.

She had apparently looked out of the health centre, spotted the
danger, and had gone out to move her car away from the tree when the
branch fell on her/the car.

I remember thinking at the time that her response would have been my
first reaction, too: "I better move my car", rather than "I better
stay well clear of that tree, and if the car gets crushed, so be it".
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Kerr-Mudd, John
2024-11-01 11:25:53 UTC
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Post by Paul Carmichael
Post by Silvano
Are you all right, Paul?
Yes, thank you. It has rained here, but most of the death and
destruction has been more east (Valencia) and west (C=C3=A1diz).
For us it has been something positive, as we have been in drought
for years.
Last evening the TV was showing incredible scenes of destruction.
Apparently, a lot of people died when trying to extract their cars
from basement car parks. Very sad.
Yes, that is very sad indeed. It's also one of those cases that in
retrospect was clearly the wrong thing to do, but at the time would
have been an entirely rational response.
Many years ago, a woman died in the car park of a health centre
behind the house we were then living in, when her car was crushed by
a large tree branch that fell in a severe wind storm.
She had apparently looked out of the health centre, spotted the
danger, and had gone out to move her car away from the tree when the
branch fell on her/the car.
I remember thinking at the time that her response would have been my
first reaction, too: "I better move my car", rather than "I better
stay well clear of that tree, and if the car gets crushed, so be it".
It's far too soon, I know, but the image of the guy running out to rescu=
e =

his car on the Tahoma Straits Bridge came to mind.

It's standard advice for a fire IIRC - get out-, get out now!; don't sto=
p =

to get dressed, get your laptop etc.

-- =

Bah, and indeed, Humbug
Kerr-Mudd, John
2024-11-01 11:30:50 UTC
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Post by Paul Carmichael
Post by Silvano
Are you all right, Paul?
Yes, thank you. It has rained here, but most of the death and
destruction has been more east (Valencia) and west (C=C3=A1diz).
For us it has been something positive, as we have been in drought
for years.
Last evening the TV was showing incredible scenes of destruction.
Apparently, a lot of people died when trying to extract their cars
from basement car parks. Very sad.
Yes, that is very sad indeed. It's also one of those cases that in
retrospect was clearly the wrong thing to do, but at the time would
have been an entirely rational response.
Many years ago, a woman died in the car park of a health centre
behind the house we were then living in, when her car was crushed by
a large tree branch that fell in a severe wind storm.
She had apparently looked out of the health centre, spotted the
danger, and had gone out to move her car away from the tree when the
branch fell on her/the car.
I remember thinking at the time that her response would have been my
first reaction, too: "I better move my car", rather than "I better
stay well clear of that tree, and if the car gets crushed, so be it".=
It's far too soon, I know, but the image of the guy running out to =
rescue his car on the Tahoma Straits Bridge came to mind.
Tacoma
It's standard advice for a fire IIRC - get out-, get out now!; don't =
stop to get dressed, get your laptop etc.
-- =

Bah, and indeed, Humbug
jerryfriedman
2024-11-02 16:20:51 UTC
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It's far too soon, I know, but the image of the guy running out to
rescue his car on the Tahoma Straits Bridge came to mind.
Tacoma
Narrows.

I always thought he was taking measurements, but according
to Wikipedia, he was a photographer from a local
newspaper who trying to rescue the editor's daughter's
dog, which the editor had left in a car.

--
Jerry Friedman
Bob Martin
2024-11-03 06:30:34 UTC
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Post by Kerr-Mudd, John
It's far too soon, I know, but the image of the guy running out to
rescue his car on the Tahoma Straits Bridge came to mind.
Tacoma
Narrows.
I always thought he was taking measurements, but according
to Wikipedia, he was a photographer from a local
newspaper who trying to rescue the editor's daughter's
dog, which the editor had left in a car.
Did he rescue the dog?
jerryfriedman
2024-11-03 16:25:14 UTC
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Post by Kerr-Mudd, John
It's far too soon, I know, but the image of the guy running out to
rescue his car on the Tahoma Straits Bridge came to mind.
Tacoma
Narrows.
I always thought he was taking measurements, but according
to Wikipedia, he was a photographer from a local
newspaper who
was
Post by Bob Martin
Post by jerryfriedman
trying to rescue the editor's daughter's
dog, which the editor had left in a car.
Did he rescue the dog?
I take it you haven't seen the film. He didn't.
ObUsage: I think that if I'd actually typed "he was
trying", it would have strongly implied that he didn't
succeed.

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Athel Cornish-Bowden
2024-11-03 17:01:27 UTC
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Post by Kerr-Mudd, John
It's far too soon, I know, but the image of the guy running out to
rescue his car on the Tahoma Straits Bridge came to mind.
Tacoma
Narrows.
I always thought he was taking measurements, but according
to Wikipedia, he was a photographer from a local
newspaper who
was
Post by Bob Martin
Post by jerryfriedman
trying to rescue the editor's daughter's
dog, which the editor had left in a car.
Did he rescue the dog?
I take it you haven't seen the film.
At one time this was the film I'd seen the most times.
Post by jerryfriedman
He didn't.
ObUsage: I think that if I'd actually typed "he was
trying", it would have strongly implied that he didn't
succeed.
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Athel -- French and British, living in Marseilles for 37 years; mainly
in England until 1987.
LionelEdwards
2024-11-03 17:18:54 UTC
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Post by Kerr-Mudd, John
It's far too soon, I know, but the image of the guy running out to
rescue his car on the Tahoma Straits Bridge came to mind.
Tacoma
Narrows.
I always thought he was taking measurements, but according
to Wikipedia, he was a photographer from a local
newspaper who
was
Post by Bob Martin
Post by jerryfriedman
trying to rescue the editor's daughter's
dog, which the editor had left in a car.
Did he rescue the dog?
I take it you haven't seen the film. He didn't.
ObUsage: I think that if I'd actually typed "he was
trying", it would have strongly implied that he didn't
succeed.
If I am "trying to be on my best behaviour", that is
neutral about whether I succeeded or not. If Hudson
is trying to find the NW Passage, we may never know
whether he succeeded or not.
jerryfriedman
2024-11-03 18:10:36 UTC
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Post by Kerr-Mudd, John
Post by Kerr-Mudd, John
It's far too soon, I know, but the image of the guy running out to
rescue his car on the Tahoma Straits Bridge came to mind.
Tacoma
Narrows.
I always thought he was taking measurements, but according
to Wikipedia, he was a photographer from a local
newspaper who
was
Post by Bob Martin
Post by jerryfriedman
trying to rescue the editor's daughter's
dog, which the editor had left in a car.
Did he rescue the dog?
I take it you haven't seen the film. He didn't.
ObUsage: I think that if I'd actually typed "he was
trying", it would have strongly implied that he didn't
succeed.
If I am "trying to be on my best behaviour", that is
neutral about whether I succeeded or not. If Hudson
is trying to find the NW Passage, we may never know
whether he succeeded or not.
In what I wrote, I'd probably have written "who was
rescuing the... dog" if he'd succeeded, so there's a
strong implication that he didn't. Your examples
will be more illuminating if you fix the tenses.

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Sam Plusnet
2024-11-03 18:43:56 UTC
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Post by Kerr-Mudd, John
Post by Kerr-Mudd, John
It's far too soon, I know, but the image of the guy running out to
rescue his car on the Tahoma Straits Bridge came to mind.
Tacoma
Narrows.
I always thought he was taking measurements, but according
to Wikipedia, he was a photographer from a local
newspaper who
was
Post by Bob Martin
Post by jerryfriedman
trying to rescue the editor's daughter's
dog, which the editor had left in a car.
Did he rescue the dog?
I take it you haven't seen the film.  He didn't.
ObUsage: I think that if I'd actually typed "he was
trying", it would have strongly implied that he didn't
succeed.
"Fortunately, the only casualties were a car stalled on the bridge - and
a dog."

I suspect a modern news report wouldn't just mention the dog as an
afterthought.

"Bridge horror as dog takes death-plunge!"
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Sam Plusnet
lar3ryca
2024-11-02 05:33:01 UTC
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Post by Silvano
Are you all right, Paul?
Yes, thank you. It has rained here, but most of the death and
destruction has been more east (Valencia) and west (Cádiz).
For us it has been something positive, as we have been in drought
for years.
Last evening the TV was showing incredible scenes of destruction.
Apparently, a lot of people died when trying to extract their cars
from basement car parks. Very sad.
Yes, that is very sad indeed.  It's also one of those cases that in
retrospect was clearly the wrong thing to do, but at the time would
have been an entirely rational response.
Many years ago, a woman died in the car park of a health centre
behind the house we were then living in, when her car was crushed by
a large tree branch that fell in a severe wind storm.
She had apparently looked out of the health centre, spotted the
danger, and had gone out to move her car away from the tree when the
branch fell on her/the car.
I remember thinking at the time that her response would have been my
first reaction, too:  "I better move my car", rather than "I better
stay well clear of that tree, and if the car gets crushed, so be it".
It's far too soon, I know, but the image of the guy running out to
rescue his car on the Tahoma Straits Bridge came to mind.
It's standard advice for a fire IIRC - get out-, get out now!; don't
stop to get dressed, get your laptop etc.
I like "Exit the building before tweeting about it."
--
Synonym: a word you can use instead of a word you can't spell.
occam
2024-11-02 08:07:58 UTC
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Are you all right, Paul?
<snip>
Post by lar3ryca
Post by Kerr-Mudd, John
Post by HVS
Many years ago, a woman died in the car park of a health centre
behind the house we were then living in, when her car was crushed by
a large tree branch that fell in a severe wind storm.
She had apparently looked out of the health centre, spotted the
danger, and had gone out to move her car away from the tree when the
branch fell on her/the car.
I remember thinking at the time that her response would have been my
first reaction, too:  "I better move my car", rather than "I better
stay well clear of that tree, and if the car gets crushed, so be it".
It's far too soon, I know, but the image of the guy running out to
rescue his car on the Tahoma Straits Bridge came to mind.
It's standard advice for a fire IIRC - get out-, get out now!; don't
stop to get dressed, get your laptop etc.
I like "Exit the building before tweeting about it."
<smile> "...or taking a selfie."

Nature's way of weeding out the stupid.

[P.S: I also like your .sig offering of the day:
Synonym: A word you can use instead of a word you can't spell. ]
lar3ryca
2024-11-06 06:36:53 UTC
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Are you all right, Paul?
<snip>
Post by lar3ryca
Post by Kerr-Mudd, John
Post by HVS
Many years ago, a woman died in the car park of a health centre
behind the house we were then living in, when her car was crushed by
a large tree branch that fell in a severe wind storm.
She had apparently looked out of the health centre, spotted the
danger, and had gone out to move her car away from the tree when the
branch fell on her/the car.
I remember thinking at the time that her response would have been my
first reaction, too:  "I better move my car", rather than "I better
stay well clear of that tree, and if the car gets crushed, so be it".
It's far too soon, I know, but the image of the guy running out to
rescue his car on the Tahoma Straits Bridge came to mind.
It's standard advice for a fire IIRC - get out-, get out now!; don't
stop to get dressed, get your laptop etc.
I like "Exit the building before tweeting about it."
<smile> "...or taking a selfie."
Nature's way of weeding out the stupid.
Synonym: A word you can use instead of a word you can't spell. ]
Oooh! I like it! I've added it to my .sig file. It's still growing.
Thanks!

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[sudo] password for larry:
"/usr/share/games/fortunes/sigs.dat" created
There were 317 strings
Longest string: 188 bytes
Shortest string: 16 bytes
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Snidely
2024-11-06 19:27:29 UTC
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Post by lar3ryca
Post by Kerr-Mudd, John
Post by HVS
Post by Silvano
Are you all right, Paul?
<snip>
Post by lar3ryca
Post by Kerr-Mudd, John
Post by HVS
Many years ago, a woman died in the car park of a health centre
behind the house we were then living in, when her car was crushed by
a large tree branch that fell in a severe wind storm.
She had apparently looked out of the health centre, spotted the
danger, and had gone out to move her car away from the tree when the
branch fell on her/the car.
I remember thinking at the time that her response would have been my
first reaction, too:  "I better move my car", rather than "I better
stay well clear of that tree, and if the car gets crushed, so be it".
It's far too soon, I know, but the image of the guy running out to
rescue his car on the Tahoma Straits Bridge came to mind.
It's standard advice for a fire IIRC - get out-, get out now!; don't
stop to get dressed, get your laptop etc.
I like "Exit the building before tweeting about it."
<smile> "...or taking a selfie."
Nature's way of weeding out the stupid.
Synonym: A word you can use instead of a word you can't spell. ]
Oooh! I like it! I've added it to my .sig file. It's still growing.
Thanks!
"/usr/share/games/fortunes/sigs.dat" created
There were 317 strings
Longest string: 188 bytes
Shortest string: 16 bytes
Wasn't it already in your dot-sig file? Did you see who occam was
replying to?

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lar3ryca
2024-11-07 06:10:24 UTC
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Tuesday, lar3ryca murmurred ...
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Post by lar3ryca
Post by Kerr-Mudd, John
Post by HVS
Post by Silvano
Are you all right, Paul?
<snip>
Post by lar3ryca
Post by Kerr-Mudd, John
Post by HVS
Many years ago, a woman died in the car park of a health centre
behind the house we were then living in, when her car was crushed by
a large tree branch that fell in a severe wind storm.
She had apparently looked out of the health centre, spotted the
danger, and had gone out to move her car away from the tree when the
branch fell on her/the car.
I remember thinking at the time that her response would have been my
first reaction, too:  "I better move my car", rather than "I better
stay well clear of that tree, and if the car gets crushed, so be it".
It's far too soon, I know, but the image of the guy running out to
rescue his car on the Tahoma Straits Bridge came to mind.
It's standard advice for a fire IIRC - get out-, get out now!; don't
stop to get dressed, get your laptop etc.
I like "Exit the building before tweeting about it."
<smile> "...or taking a selfie."
Nature's way of weeding out the stupid.
Synonym: A word you can use instead of a word you can't spell. ]
Oooh! I like it! I've added it to my .sig file. It's still growing.
Thanks!
"/usr/share/games/fortunes/sigs.dat" created
There were 317 strings
Longest string: 188 bytes
Shortest string: 16 bytes
Wasn't it already in your dot-sig file?  Did you see who occam was
replying to?
Oops. Indeed it was. When I read occam's post, I did a search, but for
some reason I did not find the word 'synonym' in the file. That should
have been a clue. I probably mistyped it.
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You don't talk about, mention, speak of, discuss, natter or chat about
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Bertel Lund Hansen
2024-11-02 05:48:55 UTC
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It's standard advice for a fire IIRC - get out-, get out now!; don't stop
to get dressed, get your laptop etc.
I have read that it is the most ridiculous things people try to save
when having to abandon their home in a hurry.
--
Bertel
Kolt, Denmark
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