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navi
2024-11-05 07:56:40 UTC
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Which are correct:

1) I offered him to help him move.
2) I offered to him to help him move.
I want to help him.

3) I offered him to stay at my place.
4) I offered to him to stay at my place.
I am telling him he can stay at my place.

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Gratefully,
Navi


Lost in the Twilight Zone of the English language
Obsessed with ambiguity
Interested in strange structures
Hibou
2024-11-05 08:09:24 UTC
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Post by navi
1) I offered him to help him move.
2) I offered to him to help him move.
I want to help him.
3) I offered him to stay at my place.
4) I offered to him to stay at my place.
I am telling him he can stay at my place.
None of them are idiomatic.

I offered to help him move.

I offered to put him up at my place.

Context will make it clear whether you made the offer directly to him or
via some third party. (Even the shortest of short stories is allowed to
contain more than one sentence. I came. I saw. I conquered.)
LionelEdwards
2024-11-05 08:10:15 UTC
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Post by navi
1) I offered him to help him move.
2) I offered to him to help him move.
I want to help him.
3) I offered him to stay at my place.
4) I offered to him to stay at my place.
I am telling him he can stay at my place.
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Gratefully,
Navi
The sort of people who say "I learned him
some manners" might say (3). I can't imagine
anyone saying any of the others.

1a) I offered to help him move.
3a) I offered to let him stay at my place.
Janet
2024-11-05 09:49:57 UTC
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In article
None. Try again.
Post by navi
1) I offered him to help him move.
2) I offered to him to help him move.
I want to help him.
3) I offered him to stay at my place.
4) I offered to him to stay at my place.
I am telling him he can stay at my place.
Janet.
jerryfriedman
2024-11-05 15:19:50 UTC
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Post by navi
1) I offered him to help him move.
2) I offered to him to help him move.
I want to help him.
3) I offered him to stay at my place.
4) I offered to him to stay at my place.
I am telling him he can stay at my place.
Been reading Nabokov? That's one of the lapses in his
mostly astonishing English. On his grandfather:

"At his retirement, Alexander the Third offered him to choose
between the title of count and a sum of money, presumably
large—I do not know what exactly an earldom was worth in
Russia, but contrary to the thrifty Tsar’s hopes my
grandfather (as also his uncle Ivan, who had been offered
a similar choice by Nicholas the First) plumped for the
more solid reward."

There's at least one in /Pale Fire/ too, though it's in
verse.

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Jerry Friedman
navi
2024-11-05 22:55:25 UTC
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Thank you all very much,

Jerry, you never fail to amaze! This was incredible!

It is good for me to know that even Nabakov made mistakes in his English
that could be spotted by a native speaker!

Thanks.

I didn't see it in Nabakov by the way. It just came to mind and I
thought it was ambiguous!

I find it interesting that Nabakov's name was mentioned in song! Do you
know what song it is?

Gratefully,
Navi
navi
2024-11-05 22:57:03 UTC
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Nabokov
not
Nabakov

I always make that mistake! I bet he didn't make that one!

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