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ErichV
2006-07-12 12:22:43 UTC
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Hi,
Looking for the word for when things happen at the same time - A thinks of
B, phone rings, B is calling
Looked for "reciprocacy" on Google but no difinitive answer??

Regards
HVS
2006-07-12 12:23:57 UTC
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Post by ErichV
Hi,
Looking for the word for when things happen at the same time -
A thinks of B, phone rings, B is calling
Looked for "reciprocacy" on Google but no difinitive answer??
Synchronicity, I'd say.
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Cheers, Harvey

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ErichV
2006-07-12 14:23:20 UTC
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That's IT!!!

Knew there is a reason why I still hang onto this newsgroup!

Thanks!

now I must try and find the old posting about "SameOle SomeOle"

;)

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Post by HVS
Post by ErichV
Hi,
Looking for the word for when things happen at the same time -
A thinks of B, phone rings, B is calling
Looked for "reciprocacy" on Google but no difinitive answer??
Synchronicity, I'd say.
--
Cheers, Harvey
Canadian and British English, indiscriminately mixed
For e-mail, change harvey.news to harvey.van
Bob Cunningham
2006-07-12 16:28:11 UTC
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On Wed, 12 Jul 2006 16:23:20 +0200, "ErichV"
Post by ErichV
Post by HVS
Post by ErichV
Hi,
Looking for the word for when things happen at the same time -
A thinks of B, phone rings, B is calling
Looked for "reciprocacy" on Google but no difinitive answer??
Synchronicity, I'd say.
That's IT!!!
At first thought, it seems that a better word for two things
happening at the same time is "simultaneity". Another is
"coincidence".

In electrical engineering or computer science, "synchronous"
has a meaning that extends well beyond just happening at the
same time. Two periodic processes are synchronous if they
have precisely the same period.

But now that I look up "synchronicity", I see that it has a
somewhat different meaning for psychologists, and that
meaning fits very well the case described:

2 : the coincidental occurrence of events and
especially psychic events (as similar thoughts in
widely separated persons or a mental image of an
unexpected event before it happens) that seem
related but are not explained by conventional
mechanisms of causality — used especially in the
psychology of C. G. Jung
Mike Lyle
2006-07-12 16:42:28 UTC
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Post by HVS
Post by ErichV
Hi,
Looking for the word for when things happen at the same time -
A thinks of B, phone rings, B is calling
Looked for "reciprocacy" on Google but no difinitive answer??
Synchronicity, I'd say.
Much of British TV is dominated, one might say "ruled", by celebrity
chefs. This is recipocracy.
--
Mike.
HVS
2006-07-12 16:56:53 UTC
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Post by Mike Lyle
Post by HVS
Post by ErichV
Hi,
Looking for the word for when things happen at the same time
- A thinks of B, phone rings, B is calling
Looked for "reciprocacy" on Google but no difinitive
answer??
Synchronicity, I'd say.
Much of British TV is dominated, one might say "ruled", by
celebrity chefs. This is recipocracy.
Scheduling them at the same time on different channels is
synchronicity.

Or collusion, perhaps.
--
Cheers, Harvey

Canadian and British English, indiscriminately mixed
For e-mail, change harvey.news to harvey.van
mb
2006-07-12 18:19:26 UTC
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Post by HVS
Post by Mike Lyle
Much of British TV is dominated, one might say "ruled", by
celebrity chefs. This is recipocracy.
Scheduling them at the same time on different channels is
synchronicity.
Or collusion, perhaps.
Collision, or collusion as in A Plot to Leave no Escape to the Poor
Viewer?
ray o'hara
2006-07-13 06:58:23 UTC
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Post by mb
Post by HVS
Post by Mike Lyle
Much of British TV is dominated, one might say "ruled", by
celebrity chefs. This is recipocracy.
Scheduling them at the same time on different channels is
synchronicity.
Or collusion, perhaps.
Collision, or collusion as in A Plot to Leave no Escape to the Poor
Viewer?
That's called competition.
R H Draney
2006-07-12 19:00:36 UTC
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Post by HVS
Post by Mike Lyle
Much of British TV is dominated, one might say "ruled", by
celebrity chefs. This is recipocracy.
Scheduling them at the same time on different channels is
synchronicity.
Or collusion, perhaps.
Or what passes for Zeitgeist in the twenty-first century....r
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athel...@yahoo
2006-07-12 12:28:49 UTC
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Post by ErichV
Hi,
Looking for the word for when things happen at the same time - A thinks of
B, phone rings, B is calling
Looked for "reciprocacy" on Google but no difinitive answer??
The word you're thinking of is "reciprocity" (13.6 million hits on
Google), not "reciprocacy" (a mere 244 hits, with "Did you mean:
reciprocity"), but it doesn't fit the meaning you want. What about
"coincidence"?

athel
UC
2006-07-12 16:30:42 UTC
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Post by ErichV
Hi,
Looking for the word for when things happen at the same time - A thinks of
B, phone rings, B is calling
Looked for "reciprocacy" on Google but no difinitive answer??
Regards
The word is 'association', or possibly 'coincidence'.
Martin Ambuhl
2006-07-12 19:18:11 UTC
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Post by ErichV
Hi,
Looking for the word for when things happen at the same time - A thinks of
B, phone rings, B is calling
synchronicity /%sINkr@"nIsIti/
· n.
1 the simultaneous occurrence of events with no discernible causal
connection.
2 the state of being synchronous or synchronic.
ray o'hara
2006-07-13 06:57:15 UTC
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Post by ErichV
Hi,
Looking for the word for when things happen at the same time - A thinks of
B, phone rings, B is calling
Looked for "reciprocacy" on Google but no difinitive answer??
Regards
serendipity
Stephen Calder
2006-07-13 07:19:40 UTC
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Post by ray o'hara
Post by ErichV
Hi,
Looking for the word for when things happen at the same time - A thinks of
B, phone rings, B is calling
Looked for "reciprocacy" on Google but no difinitive answer??
Regards
serendipity
It ain't that. Serendipity is happy discovery, not coincidence.
--
Stephen
Lennox Head, Australia
Blinky the Shark
2006-07-13 07:38:55 UTC
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Post by Stephen Calder
Post by ray o'hara
Post by ErichV
Looked for "reciprocacy" on Google but no difinitive answer??
serendipity
It ain't that. Serendipity is happy discovery, not coincidence.
Wouldn't that be like OP discovering that "reciprocacy" was a word?
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Peter Moylan
2006-07-13 08:16:39 UTC
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Post by Stephen Calder
Post by ray o'hara
Post by ErichV
Looking for the word for when things happen at the same time - A
thinks of B, phone rings, B is calling Looked for "reciprocacy"
on Google but no difinitive answer??
serendipity
It ain't that. Serendipity is happy discovery, not coincidence.
Now I'm puzzled. To me, serendipity has always meant discovering
something while looking for something else. A quick glance through a few
dictionaries shows that some support my interpretation, and others
support yours. In other words, the dictionaries are not agreeing with
one another about the meaning of this word, although all agree about the
origin.
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Stephen Calder
2006-07-13 08:30:39 UTC
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Post by Peter Moylan
Post by Stephen Calder
Post by ray o'hara
Post by ErichV
Looking for the word for when things happen at the same time - A
thinks of B, phone rings, B is calling Looked for "reciprocacy"
on Google but no difinitive answer??
serendipity
It ain't that. Serendipity is happy discovery, not coincidence.
Now I'm puzzled. To me, serendipity has always meant discovering
something while looking for something else. A quick glance through a few
dictionaries shows that some support my interpretation, and others
support yours. In other words, the dictionaries are not agreeing with
one another about the meaning of this word, although all agree about the
origin.
Presumably it's case of meaning drift. If you get my meaning.
--
Stephen
Lennox Head, Australia
Stephen Calder
2006-07-13 08:40:22 UTC
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Post by Stephen Calder
Post by Peter Moylan
Post by Stephen Calder
Post by ray o'hara
Post by ErichV
Looking for the word for when things happen at the same time - A
thinks of B, phone rings, B is calling Looked for "reciprocacy"
on Google but no difinitive answer??
serendipity
It ain't that. Serendipity is happy discovery, not coincidence.
Now I'm puzzled. To me, serendipity has always meant discovering
something while looking for something else. A quick glance through a few
dictionaries shows that some support my interpretation, and others
support yours. In other words, the dictionaries are not agreeing with
one another about the meaning of this word, although all agree about the
origin.
Presumably it's case of meaning drift. If you get my meaning.
M-W (10th Coll) says it's the finding of agreeable things not sought
for, which is not quite the same as "while looking for something else".
--
Stephen
Lennox Head, Australia
Steve Hayes
2006-07-13 10:14:58 UTC
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Post by Stephen Calder
Post by Peter Moylan
Post by Stephen Calder
Post by ray o'hara
Post by ErichV
Looking for the word for when things happen at the same time - A
thinks of B, phone rings, B is calling Looked for "reciprocacy"
on Google but no difinitive answer??
serendipity
It ain't that. Serendipity is happy discovery, not coincidence.
Now I'm puzzled. To me, serendipity has always meant discovering
something while looking for something else. A quick glance through a few
dictionaries shows that some support my interpretation, and others
support yours. In other words, the dictionaries are not agreeing with
one another about the meaning of this word, although all agree about the
origin.
Presumably it's case of meaning drift. If you get my meaning.
M-W (10th Coll) says it's the finding of agreeable things not sought
for, which is not quite the same as "while looking for something else".
Collins: the faculty of making fortunate discoveries by accident.
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Gene E. Bloch
2006-07-13 17:26:35 UTC
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Post by Peter Moylan
Post by Stephen Calder
Post by ray o'hara
Post by ErichV
Looking for the word for when things happen at the same time - A
thinks of B, phone rings, B is calling Looked for "reciprocacy"
on Google but no difinitive answer??
serendipity
It ain't that. Serendipity is happy discovery, not coincidence.
Now I'm puzzled. To me, serendipity has always meant discovering
something while looking for something else. A quick glance through a few
dictionaries shows that some support my interpretation, and others
support yours. In other words, the dictionaries are not agreeing with
one another about the meaning of this word, although all agree about the
origin.
I've always taken it to mean *recognizing* that you had found something
valuable which wasn't what you were looking for.

Fleming and penicillin is the standard example. "Something" kept
ruining his cultures, and he realized whatever it was might be useful
in killng infective agents.
--
Gene E. Bloch (Gino)
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UC
2006-07-13 17:31:20 UTC
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Post by Peter Moylan
Post by Stephen Calder
Post by ray o'hara
Post by ErichV
Looking for the word for when things happen at the same time - A
thinks of B, phone rings, B is calling Looked for "reciprocacy"
on Google but no difinitive answer??
serendipity
It ain't that. Serendipity is happy discovery, not coincidence.
Now I'm puzzled. To me, serendipity has always meant discovering
something while looking for something else. A quick glance through a few
dictionaries shows that some support my interpretation, and others
support yours. In other words, the dictionaries are not agreeing with
one another about the meaning of this word, although all agree about the
origin.
I've always taken it to mean *recognizing* that you had found something
valuable which wasn't what you were looking for.
Fleming and penicillin is the standard example. "Something" kept
ruining his cultures, and he realized whatever it was might be useful
in killng infective agents.
The emphasis is on coincidence, not the recognition.
Post by Gene E. Bloch
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Gene E. Bloch
2006-07-13 18:09:57 UTC
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Post by Gene E. Bloch
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Post by Stephen Calder
Post by ray o'hara
Post by ErichV
Looking for the word for when things happen at the same time - A
thinks of B, phone rings, B is calling Looked for "reciprocacy"
on Google but no difinitive answer??
serendipity
It ain't that. Serendipity is happy discovery, not coincidence.
Now I'm puzzled. To me, serendipity has always meant discovering
something while looking for something else. A quick glance through a few
dictionaries shows that some support my interpretation, and others
support yours. In other words, the dictionaries are not agreeing with
one another about the meaning of this word, although all agree about the
origin.
I've always taken it to mean *recognizing* that you had found something
valuable which wasn't what you were looking for.
Fleming and penicillin is the standard example. "Something" kept
ruining his cultures, and he realized whatever it was might be useful
in killng infective agents.
The emphasis is on coincidence, not the recognition.
Quoting a copy of the American Heritage Dictionary, which is quoting
the coiner of the term,

"... [A]s their highnesses traveled, they were always making
discoveries, by accidents and sagacity, of things they were not in
quest of..."

Nothing there about coincidence.
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Gene E. Bloch (Gino)
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