"essence" vs "quintessence" - what is the essential difference?

[occam]

What is the difference between the "essence" and "quintessence"?

(Sorry, I am not able to accept "quint" as an answer.)

What is the significance of 'quint' (five)? Four elements plus one unknown?

I have seen 'purest essence' as one definition of quintessence. However,
this sounds as a tautolog y since the essence of something (Greek
'ousia') already incorporates its purity.

[Peter T. Daniels]

Post by occam
What is the difference between the "essence" and "quintessence"?
(Sorry, I am not able to accept "quint" as an answer.)
What is the significance of 'quint' (five)? Four elements plus one unknown?
I have seen 'purest essence' as one definition of quintessence. However,
this sounds as a tautolog y since the essence of something (Greek
'ousia') already incorporates its purity.

To get the essence of the substance, you distill it five times.

[Peter Duncanson [BrE]]

On Sun, 19 Jul 2020 06:34:29 -0700 (PDT), "Peter T. Daniels"

Post by Peter T. Daniels

Post by occam
What is the difference between the "essence" and "quintessence"?
(Sorry, I am not able to accept "quint" as an answer.)
What is the significance of 'quint' (five)? Four elements plus one unknown?
I have seen 'purest essence' as one definition of quintessence. However,
this sounds as a tautolog y since the essence of something (Greek
'ousia') already incorporates its purity.

To get the essence of the substance, you distill it five times.

<smile>

"quintessence comes from the Latin "quinta essentia", "fifth essence".

The way the word is used today is different from its original meaning.

Originally [OED]:

1.
a. In classical and medieval philosophy: a fifth essence existing in
addition to the four elements, supposed to be the substance of which
the celestial bodies were composed and to be latent in all things;
(Alchemy) this essence, supposed to be able to be extracted by
distillation or other procedures.

c1460 (??c1435) J. Lydgate Minor Poems (1934) ii. 667 Aurum
potabile..In quynt-essense [v.r. quyntencense] best restauracioun.
....
1919 Science 3 Jan. 1/2 Aristotle's elements—earth, air, fire,
water and the quintessence, derived perhaps from yet more ancient
philosophy—were not plentiful enough to account for all the
manifold phenomena of nature.
1988 K. Logan Paganism & Occult 132 To others, it relates to the
‘quintessence’, the luminous and invisible fifth element that
binds together the normal four elements of earth, air, fire and
water.

More recently:

3. figurative.
a. The most essential part or feature of some non-material thing;
the purest or most perfect form or manifestation of some quality,
idea, etc.

b. The most typical example of a category or class; the most perfect
embodiment of a certain type of person or thing.

See also:
https://www.lexico.com/definition/quintessence

[Anders D. Nygaard]

Post by Peter Duncanson [BrE]
[...]
"quintessence comes from the Latin "quinta essentia", "fifth essence".
The way the word is used today is different from its original meaning.
[...]
1988 K. Logan Paganism & Occult 132 To others, it relates to the
‘quintessence’, the luminous and invisible fifth element that
binds together the normal four elements of earth, air, fire and
water.

I know that believers in the occult sometimes believe six impossible
things before breakfast, but:
How can something be both luminous and invisible at the same time?

/Anders, Denmark

[CDB]

Post by Anders D. Nygaard

[...] "quintessence comes from the Latin "quinta essentia", "fifth
essence".
The way the word is used today is different from its original
meaning.
[...] 1988 K. Logan Paganism & Occult 132 To others, it
relates to the ‘quintessence’, the luminous and invisible fifth
element that binds together the normal four elements of earth, air,
fire and water.

I know that believers in the occult sometimes believe six impossible
things before breakfast, but: How can something be both luminous
and invisible at the same time?

Unicorns can do that too, when there are pink shades. I think
"luminous" in that context may refer to the aether's ability to transmit
light; I have seen the element described as "luminiferous" (which is
even harder to type).

[J. J. Lodder]

Post by Anders D. Nygaard

Post by Peter Duncanson [BrE]
[...]
"quintessence comes from the Latin "quinta essentia", "fifth essence".
The way the word is used today is different from its original meaning.
[...]
1988 K. Logan Paganism & Occult 132 To others, it relates to the
'quintessence', the luminous and invisible fifth element that
binds together the normal four elements of earth, air, fire and
water.

I know that believers in the occult sometimes believe six impossible
How can something be both luminous and invisible at the same time?

It should be the luminiferous aether.
It carries the light, but does not itself give light,

Jan

[Sam Plusnet]

Post by J. J. Lodder

Post by Anders D. Nygaard
I know that believers in the occult sometimes believe six impossible
How can something be both luminous and invisible at the same time?

It should be the luminiferous aether.
It carries the light, but does not itself give light,

It's asymptomatic?

[Snidely]

On Tuesday, Sam Plusnet pointed out that ...

Post by Sam Plusnet

Post by J. J. Lodder

Post by Anders D. Nygaard
I know that believers in the occult sometimes believe six impossible
How can something be both luminous and invisible at the same time?

It should be the luminiferous aether.
It carries the light, but does not itself give light,

It's asymptomatic?

Plorf. Good thing my beverage was on the coaster.

/dps

[Dingbat]

Post by Peter T. Daniels

Post by occam
What is the difference between the "essence" and "quintessence"?
(Sorry, I am not able to accept "quint" as an answer.)
What is the significance of 'quint' (five)? Four elements plus one unknown?
I have seen 'purest essence' as one definition of quintessence. However,
this sounds as a tautology since the essence of something (Greek
'ousia') already incorporates its purity.

To get the essence of the substance, you distill it five times.

Yet, essential and quintessential are completely different in meaning!


FWIW, Ousia and Hypostases are used in a theological formulation:

<https://www.google.com/search?q=hypostases+ousia+difference&oq=hypostases+ousia+difference>

These words look like translations of hypostasis:
substance, understanding

[Stefan Ram]

Post by occam
What is the significance of 'quint' (five)?

Today, the Internet say (about vodka):

|Hence quadruple or triple distilled is a reasonable and
|believable claim but anything over five distillations is
|likely to be a marketer's exaggeration.

. If I understand this correctly, anything over five
distillation is nonsense. So, five distillations are
about as pure as it can get. It seems that even the
old masters have been aware of this. ... (Read on!)

I always used to believe that a "quintessence" is the
end result of five iterations of some purification
process. But a dictionary gives instead:

|a fifth essence existing in addition to the four elements
||The quint essence or fyfte substaunce, is a body of it selfe
||They supposed the heavens to be a quintessence, or a fifth
||sort of body.
||Aristotle's elements—earth, air, fire, water and the
||quintessence
||the luminous and invisible fifth element that binds together
||the normal four elements

[Stefan Ram]

Supersedes: <distillations-***@ram.dialup.fu-berlin.de>
[say->says]

Post by occam
What is the significance of 'quint' (five)?

Today, the Internet says (about vodka):

|Hence quadruple or triple distilled is a reasonable and
|believable claim but anything over five distillations is
|likely to be a marketer's exaggeration.

. If I understand this correctly, anything over five
distillation is nonsense. So, five distillations are
about as pure as it can get. It seems that even the
old masters have been aware of this. ... (Read on!)

I always used to believe that a "quintessence" is the
end result of five iterations of some purification
process. But a dictionary gives instead:

|a fifth essence existing in addition to the four elements
||The quint essence or fyfte substaunce, is a body of it selfe
||They supposed the heavens to be a quintessence, or a fifth
||sort of body.
||Aristotle's elements—earth, air, fire, water and the
||quintessence
||the luminous and invisible fifth element that binds together
||the normal four elements

[Stefan Ram]

Post by Stefan Ram
|a fifth essence existing in addition to the four elements

from "quinta essentia"; "essence" meaning "entity",
not meaning "an extract obtained by distillation".

[J. J. Lodder]

Post by Stefan Ram
[say->says]

Post by occam
What is the significance of 'quint' (five)?

|Hence quadruple or triple distilled is a reasonable and
|believable claim but anything over five distillations is
|likely to be a marketer's exaggeration.
. If I understand this correctly, anything over five
distillation is nonsense. So, five distillations are
about as pure as it can get. It seems that even the
old masters have been aware of this. ... (Read on!)
I always used to believe that a "quintessence" is the
end result of five iterations of some purification
|a fifth essence existing in addition to the four elements
||The quint essence or fyfte substaunce, is a body of it selfe
||They supposed the heavens to be a quintessence, or a fifth
||sort of body.
||Aristotle's elements-earth, air, fire, water and the
||quintessence
||the luminous and invisible fifth element that binds together
||the normal four elements

Usually called the aether,

Jan

[Jerry Friedman]

Post by J. J. Lodder

Post by Stefan Ram
[say->says]

Post by occam
What is the significance of 'quint' (five)?

|Hence quadruple or triple distilled is a reasonable and
|believable claim but anything over five distillations is
|likely to be a marketer's exaggeration.
. If I understand this correctly, anything over five
distillation is nonsense. So, five distillations are
about as pure as it can get. It seems that even the
old masters have been aware of this. ... (Read on!)
I always used to believe that a "quintessence" is the
end result of five iterations of some purification
|a fifth essence existing in addition to the four elements
||The quint essence or fyfte substaunce, is a body of it selfe
||They supposed the heavens to be a quintessence, or a fifth
||sort of body.
||Aristotle's elements-earth, air, fire, water and the
||quintessence
||the luminous and invisible fifth element that binds together
||the normal four elements

Usually called the aether,

Though sometimes the words mean different things, e.g., "quintessence"
was sometimes used to mean what the heavenly bodies are made of, and
"ether" was sometimes used to mean what the heavenly bodies move
through, possibly an especially pure form of air or fire, according to
the OED.

[J. J. Lodder]

Post by Jerry Friedman

Post by J. J. Lodder

Post by Stefan Ram
[say->says]

Post by occam
What is the significance of 'quint' (five)?

|Hence quadruple or triple distilled is a reasonable and
|believable claim but anything over five distillations is
|likely to be a marketer's exaggeration.
. If I understand this correctly, anything over five
distillation is nonsense. So, five distillations are
about as pure as it can get. It seems that even the
old masters have been aware of this. ... (Read on!)
I always used to believe that a "quintessence" is the
end result of five iterations of some purification
|a fifth essence existing in addition to the four elements
||The quint essence or fyfte substaunce, is a body of it selfe
||They supposed the heavens to be a quintessence, or a fifth
||sort of body.
||Aristotle's elements-earth, air, fire, water and the
||quintessence
||the luminous and invisible fifth element that binds together
||the normal four elements

Usually called the aether,

Though sometimes the words mean different things, e.g., "quintessence"
was sometimes used to mean what the heavenly bodies are made of, and
"ether" was sometimes used to mean what the heavenly bodies move
through, possibly an especially pure form of air or fire, according to
the OED.

Yes, anything to avoid admitting to a vacuum,

Jan

[Peter Young]

Post by occam
What is the difference between the "essence" and "quintessence"?
(Sorry, I am not able to accept "quint" as an answer.)
What is the significance of 'quint' (five)? Four elements plus one unknown?
I have seen 'purest essence' as one definition of quintessence. However,
this sounds as a tautolog y since the essence of something (Greek
'ousia') already incorporates its purity.

Distilled five times?

Peter.

[Peter T. Daniels]

Post by Peter Young

Post by occam
What is the significance of 'quint' (five)? Four elements plus one unknown?
I have seen 'purest essence' as one definition of quintessence. However,
this sounds as a tautolog y since the essence of something (Greek
'ousia') already incorporates its purity.

Distilled five times?

That's how they told us brandy is made. I don't know who "they" is.

[Peter Moylan]

Post by occam
What is the difference between the "essence" and "quintessence"?
(Sorry, I am not able to accept "quint" as an answer.)
What is the significance of 'quint' (five)? Four elements plus one unknown?

In effect, yes. The fifth element. You have earth, air, fire, water, and
...? Vacuum, I suppose, which would be the purest element.

Of course the ancients didn't know about vacuum, but they did know that
there was something special about the heavens.

Today we would probably nominate "light" or "energy".

[Steve Hayes]

Post by occam
What is the difference between the "essence" and "quintessence"?

It is the Platonic ideal of the essence, the essence above the essence,
the essence of the essence, if you like.

We are told that some alcoholic liquors are better than others because
they are "triple distilled". Well, go twice more and what do you get?

It turns brandy into cognac, for which you can charge more.

[RH Draney]

Post by Steve Hayes
We are told that some alcoholic liquors are better than others because
they are "triple distilled". Well, go twice more and what do you get?

Another day plastered and deeper in debt....r

[CDB]

Post by RH Draney

Post by Steve Hayes
We are told that some alcoholic liquors are better than others
because they are "triple distilled". Well, go twice more and what
do you get?

Another day plastered and deeper in debt....r

<emoji registering hilarity>

[Kerr-Mudd,John]

Post by CDB

Post by RH Draney

Post by Steve Hayes
We are told that some alcoholic liquors are better than others
because they are "triple distilled". Well, go twice more and what
do you get?

Another day plastered and deeper in debt....r

<emoji registering hilarity>

Deep.

[Anton Shepelev]

RH Draney to Steve Hayes

Post by RH Draney

We are told that some alcoholic liquors are bet-
ter than others because they are "triple dis-
tilled". Well, go twice more and what do you
get?

Another day plastered and deeper in debt....r

Will not repeated distillation make the drink
stronger:

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[J. J. Lodder]

Post by Anton Shepelev
RH Draney to Steve Hayes

Post by RH Draney

We are told that some alcoholic liquors are bet-
ter than others because they are "triple dis-
tilled". Well, go twice more and what do you
get?

Another day plastered and deeper in debt....r

Will not repeated distillation make the drink

Yes and no.
Distillation is always to well beyond the wanted concentration,
folowed by diluting with water to the desired final strength,

Jan

[Lewis]

Post by Anton Shepelev
RH Draney to Steve Hayes

Post by RH Draney

We are told that some alcoholic liquors are bet-
ter than others because they are "triple dis-
tilled". Well, go twice more and what do you
get?

Another day plastered and deeper in debt....r

Will not repeated distillation make the drink

No. When you distill, the output comes out at about 90-95% pure alcohol.
Repeated distillation can even out the flavor profile, but does not
increase the proof. The exact proof depends on several factors, but the
limiting one is atmospheric pressure.

If you distill too many times, you will strip out all the flavor and end
up with a NGS (neutral Grain Spirit) which you could have gotten to a
lot more simply in a single run.

Anything over three is probably a bad idea, and three is rarely
necessary unless you are making vodka and you don;t have a goo filter.

At my friend's distillery the filter for the vodka is a 4 meter high
copper tube filled with... I think activated charcoal, but might be
something else. The vodka is piped to the top of that column and allowed
to drip through, which takes a long time. Then it is distilled a second

[Chrysi Cat]

Post by Lewis

Post by Anton Shepelev
RH Draney to Steve Hayes

Post by RH Draney

We are told that some alcoholic liquors are bet-
ter than others because they are "triple dis-
tilled". Well, go twice more and what do you
get?

Another day plastered and deeper in debt....r

Will not repeated distillation make the drink

No. When you distill, the output comes out at about 90-95% pure alcohol.
Repeated distillation can even out the flavor profile, but does not
increase the proof. The exact proof depends on several factors, but the
limiting one is atmospheric pressure.
If you distill too many times, you will strip out all the flavor and end
up with a NGS (neutral Grain Spirit) which you could have gotten to a
lot more simply in a single run.
Anything over three is probably a bad idea, and three is rarely
necessary unless you are making vodka and you don;t have a goo filter.

<snip>

Is that a "missing-d" typo, or did you literally mean to filter out goo?

(Being potato-based, I suppose the latter is possible).

[b***@shaw.ca]

Post by Chrysi Cat

Post by Lewis
If you distill too many times, you will strip out all the flavor and end
up with a NGS (neutral Grain Spirit) which you could have gotten to a
lot more simply in a single run.
Anything over three is probably a bad idea, and three is rarely
necessary unless you are making vodka and you don;t have a goo filter.

<snip>
Is that a "missing-d" typo, or did you literally mean to filter out goo?
(Being potato-based, I suppose the latter is possible).

It should be pointed out that this is alt.usage-english, and that
we are all surprised that you are potato-based.

bill

[CDB]

Post by Chrysi Cat

Post by Lewis
If you distill too many times, you will strip out all the flavor
and end up with a NGS (neutral Grain Spirit) which you could have
gotten to a lot more simply in a single run.
Anything over three is probably a bad idea, and three is rarely
necessary unless you are making vodka and you don;t have a goo filter.

<snip>
Is that a "missing-d" typo, or did you literally mean to filter out goo?
(Being potato-based, I suppose the latter is possible).

It should be pointed out that this is alt.usage-english, and that we
are all surprised that you are potato-based.

I have noticed that many people have a favourite carb: my mother
preferred potatoes over all other sources, and I have known people who
ate hardly anything in that line but pasta. Myself, I am bread-based;
whole-wheat by preference.

[Ken Blake]

Post by CDB

Post by Chrysi Cat

Post by Lewis
If you distill too many times, you will strip out all the flavor
and end up with a NGS (neutral Grain Spirit) which you could have
gotten to a lot more simply in a single run.
Anything over three is probably a bad idea, and three is rarely
necessary unless you are making vodka and you don;t have a goo filter.

<snip>
Is that a "missing-d" typo, or did you literally mean to filter out goo?
(Being potato-based, I suppose the latter is possible).

It should be pointed out that this is alt.usage-english, and that we
are all surprised that you are potato-based.

I have noticed that many people have a favourite carb: my mother
preferred potatoes over all other sources, and I have known people who
ate hardly anything in that line but pasta. Myself, I am bread-based;
whole-wheat by preference.

I have a clear favorite--not just pasta, but in particular, spaghetti.

Unfortunately in my ongoing effort to lose weight, I seldom eat any pasta.

[David Kleinecke]

Post by Ken Blake

Post by CDB

Post by Chrysi Cat

Post by Lewis
If you distill too many times, you will strip out all the flavor
and end up with a NGS (neutral Grain Spirit) which you could have
gotten to a lot more simply in a single run.
Anything over three is probably a bad idea, and three is rarely
necessary unless you are making vodka and you don;t have a goo filter.

<snip>
Is that a "missing-d" typo, or did you literally mean to filter out goo?
(Being potato-based, I suppose the latter is possible).

It should be pointed out that this is alt.usage-english, and that we
are all surprised that you are potato-based.

I have noticed that many people have a favourite carb: my mother
preferred potatoes over all other sources, and I have known people who
ate hardly anything in that line but pasta. Myself, I am bread-based;
whole-wheat by preference.

I have a clear favorite--not just pasta, but in particular, spaghetti.
Unfortunately in my ongoing effort to lose weight, I seldom eat any pasta.

I favor pasta myself. I like penne but my wife insists on
rotelli. But now I have a different problem.

My wife has decided that every weekend after we visit our
daughter we stop at the bakery wee pass (Ramones if you are
ever in Eureka) and get a pie. This interferes with my weight
loss project.

My daughter whose life is limited in the best of times is
surviving COVID-19 but is quite unhappy about it. We visit
her in the parking lot of her home - everybody masked.

[RH Draney]

Post by David Kleinecke

Post by Ken Blake

Post by CDB
I have noticed that many people have a favourite carb: my mother
preferred potatoes over all other sources, and I have known people who
ate hardly anything in that line but pasta. Myself, I am bread-based;
whole-wheat by preference.

I have a clear favorite--not just pasta, but in particular, spaghetti.
Unfortunately in my ongoing effort to lose weight, I seldom eat any pasta.

I favor pasta myself. I like penne but my wife insists on
rotelli. But now I have a different problem.

Put me down as a confirmed riceist....r

[Ken Blake]

Post by RH Draney

Post by David Kleinecke

Post by Ken Blake

Post by CDB
I have noticed that many people have a favourite carb: my mother
preferred potatoes over all other sources, and I have known people who
ate hardly anything in that line but pasta. Myself, I am bread-based;
whole-wheat by preference.

I have a clear favorite--not just pasta, but in particular, spaghetti.
Unfortunately in my ongoing effort to lose weight, I seldom eat any pasta.

I favor pasta myself. I like penne but my wife insists on
rotelli. But now I have a different problem.

Put me down as a confirmed riceist....r

I very much like risotto, basmati rice and sushi rise, but since my wife
is convinced that all rice has a significant amount of arsenic in it, we
rarely have it.

[Lewis]

Post by Ken Blake

Post by RH Draney

Post by David Kleinecke

Post by Ken Blake

Post by CDB
I have noticed that many people have a favourite carb: my mother
preferred potatoes over all other sources, and I have known people who
ate hardly anything in that line but pasta. Myself, I am bread-based;
whole-wheat by preference.

I have a clear favorite--not just pasta, but in particular, spaghetti.
Unfortunately in my ongoing effort to lose weight, I seldom eat any pasta.

I favor pasta myself. I like penne but my wife insists on
rotelli. But now I have a different problem.

Put me down as a confirmed riceist....r

I very much like risotto, basmati rice and sushi rise, but since my wife
is convinced that all rice has a significant amount of arsenic in it, we
rarely have it.

Does she also think the earth is flat and that space nazis invented 5G
to spread corona virus?

I mean, technically she's not wrong, but a whole lot of foods have trace
levels of arsenic as it is a natural part of the planet we live on.

<https://www.fda.gov/files/food/published/Arsenic-in-Rice-and-Rice-Products-Risk-Assessment-Report-PDF.pdf>
The lung cancer and bladder cancer risk (hereafter shortened to “cancer
risk”) attributable to lifetime exposure to all rice and rice products
is a small portion of all cases of these cancers, at 39 cases per
million people (10 cases/million bladder cancer and 29 cases/million
lung cancer) (see Table 5.3). To put this in perspective, the total
numbers of lung and bladder cancer cases, from all causes, are 90,000
per million people over a lifetime.

So, somewhere around 1000 servings of rice per day, every day of your
life, would just about double your cancer risk for lung and bladder
cancer.

Of course, you wouldn't live more than a day, so your actual risk of
cancer would be 0.

[RH Draney]

Post by Lewis
So, somewhere around 1000 servings of rice per day, every day of your
life, would just about double your cancer risk for lung and bladder
cancer.
Of course, you wouldn't live more than a day, so your actual risk of
cancer would be 0.

You'd die of severe constipation....r

[Ken Blake]

Post by Lewis

Post by Ken Blake

Post by RH Draney

Post by David Kleinecke

Post by Ken Blake

Post by CDB
I have noticed that many people have a favourite carb: my mother
preferred potatoes over all other sources, and I have known people who
ate hardly anything in that line but pasta. Myself, I am bread-based;
whole-wheat by preference.

I have a clear favorite--not just pasta, but in particular, spaghetti.
Unfortunately in my ongoing effort to lose weight, I seldom eat any pasta.

I favor pasta myself. I like penne but my wife insists on
rotelli. But now I have a different problem.

Put me down as a confirmed riceist....r

I very much like risotto, basmati rice and sushi rise, but since my wife
is convinced that all rice has a significant amount of arsenic in it, we
rarely have it.

Does she also think the earth is flat and that space nazis invented 5G
to spread corona virus?
I mean, technically she's not wrong, but a whole lot of foods have trace
levels of arsenic as it is a natural part of the planet we live on.

I know. Don't ask me why she's latched onto this; I don't know. She must
have read it somewhere on the web.

[Lewis]

Post by CDB

Post by Chrysi Cat

Post by Lewis
If you distill too many times, you will strip out all the flavor
and end up with a NGS (neutral Grain Spirit) which you could have
gotten to a lot more simply in a single run.
Anything over three is probably a bad idea, and three is rarely
necessary unless you are making vodka and you don;t have a goo filter.

<snip>
Is that a "missing-d" typo, or did you literally mean to filter out goo?
(Being potato-based, I suppose the latter is possible).

It should be pointed out that this is alt.usage-english, and that we
are all surprised that you are potato-based.

I have noticed that many people have a favourite carb: my mother
preferred potatoes over all other sources, and I have known people who
ate hardly anything in that line but pasta. Myself, I am bread-based;
whole-wheat by preference.

Extra gluten breads are my favorite (you can tell because they generally
have a hard crust and a fluffy interior), but I can eat a whole lot of
mashed potatoes too.

I try to avoid both these things, but mostly I fail.

[occam]

Post by b***@shaw.ca

Post by Chrysi Cat

Post by Lewis
If you distill too many times, you will strip out all the flavor and end
up with a NGS (neutral Grain Spirit) which you could have gotten to a
lot more simply in a single run.
Anything over three is probably a bad idea, and three is rarely
necessary unless you are making vodka and you don;t have a goo filter.

<snip>
Is that a "missing-d" typo, or did you literally mean to filter out goo?
(Being potato-based, I suppose the latter is possible).

It should be pointed out that this is alt.usage-english, and that
we are all surprised that you are potato-based.

Do you see what you did there, bill? One smart comment and you
<whooshed!> a food discussion sub-thread into existence. You have to use
your wit more responsibly if future.

[b***@shaw.ca]

Post by occam

Post by b***@shaw.ca

Post by Chrysi Cat

Post by Lewis
If you distill too many times, you will strip out all the flavor and end
up with a NGS (neutral Grain Spirit) which you could have gotten to a
lot more simply in a single run.
Anything over three is probably a bad idea, and three is rarely
necessary unless you are making vodka and you don;t have a goo filter.

<snip>
Is that a "missing-d" typo, or did you literally mean to filter out goo?
(Being potato-based, I suppose the latter is possible).

It should be pointed out that this is alt.usage-english, and that
we are all surprised that you are potato-based.

Do you see what you did there, bill? One smart comment and you
<whooshed!> a food discussion sub-thread into existence. You have to use
your wit more responsibly if future.

Not at all. I intended for "Chrysi Cat" to realize that what she (educatedly guessing) actually said was, "I, being potato-based, suppose the later is possible."

If she can see that, progress is possible. What I think she meant is,
"Vodka being potato-based, the latter is possible." It was a simple case
of a messed-up modifier.

Always keep in mind that this is alt-usage.english. This is totally
on-topic.

bill

[occam]

Post by b***@shaw.ca

Post by occam

Post by b***@shaw.ca

Post by Chrysi Cat

Post by Lewis
If you distill too many times, you will strip out all the flavor and end
up with a NGS (neutral Grain Spirit) which you could have gotten to a
lot more simply in a single run.
Anything over three is probably a bad idea, and three is rarely
necessary unless you are making vodka and you don;t have a goo filter.

<snip>
Is that a "missing-d" typo, or did you literally mean to filter out goo?
(Being potato-based, I suppose the latter is possible).

It should be pointed out that this is alt.usage-english, and that
we are all surprised that you are potato-based.

Do you see what you did there, bill? One smart comment and you
<whooshed!> a food discussion sub-thread into existence. You have to use
your wit more responsibly if future.

Not at all. I intended for "Chrysi Cat" to realize that what she (educatedly guessing) actually said was, "I, being potato-based, suppose the later is possible."
If she can see that, progress is possible. What I think she meant is,
"Vodka being potato-based, the latter is possible." It was a simple case
of a messed-up modifier.
Always keep in mind that this is alt-usage.english. This is totally
on-topic.

I know what you wrote and what your intended ambiguity was. What I did
not expect was that anyone would identify themselves as 'potato-based'.
My *diet* may be potato-based, but I would never describe myself as
'potato-based'. Surely, that was an unintended side-effect? Except if
you are Irish. The Irish and potatoes go back a long way.

[Snidely]

On Wednesday, occam pointed out that ...

Post by occam

Post by b***@shaw.ca

Post by occam

Post by b***@shaw.ca

Post by Chrysi Cat

Post by Lewis
If you distill too many times, you will strip out all the flavor and end
up with a NGS (neutral Grain Spirit) which you could have gotten to a
lot more simply in a single run.
Anything over three is probably a bad idea, and three is rarely
necessary unless you are making vodka and you don;t have a goo filter.

<snip>
Is that a "missing-d" typo, or did you literally mean to filter out goo?
(Being potato-based, I suppose the latter is possible).

It should be pointed out that this is alt.usage-english, and that
we are all surprised that you are potato-based.

Do you see what you did there, bill? One smart comment and you
<whooshed!> a food discussion sub-thread into existence. You have to use
your wit more responsibly if future.

Not at all. I intended for "Chrysi Cat" to realize that what she (educatedly
guessing) actually said was, "I, being potato-based, suppose the later is
possible."
If she can see that, progress is possible. What I think she meant is,
"Vodka being potato-based, the latter is possible." It was a simple case
of a messed-up modifier.
Always keep in mind that this is alt-usage.english. This is totally
on-topic.

I know what you wrote and what your intended ambiguity was. What I did
not expect was that anyone would identify themselves as 'potato-based'.
My *diet* may be potato-based, but I would never describe myself as
'potato-based'. Surely, that was an unintended side-effect? Except if
you are Irish. The Irish and potatoes go back a long way.

Well, that was kind of what Bill was getting at.

But is it so bad that the followups are playing with our food? It's a
common fate for threads to come to a fork. It helps us view the
world's glasses as not just rosé-colored, but half full instead of half
empty.

/dps "this thread is good for what ales you"

[CDB]

[misplaced modifier]

Post by occam

Post by b***@shaw.ca
Always keep in mind that this is alt-usage.english. This is totally
on-topic.

I know what you wrote and what your intended ambiguity was. What I
did not expect was that anyone would identify themselves as
'potato-based'. My *diet* may be potato-based, but I would never
describe myself as 'potato-based'. Surely, that was an unintended
side-effect? Except if you are Irish. The Irish and potatoes go back
a long way.

U are wot u eat, me old root veg.

[Peter Moylan]

Post by CDB
[misplaced modifier]

Post by occam

Post by b***@shaw.ca
Always keep in mind that this is alt-usage.english. This is totally
on-topic.

I know what you wrote and what your intended ambiguity was. What I did
not expect was that anyone would identify themselves as
'potato-based'. My *diet* may be potato-based, but I would never
describe myself as 'potato-based'. Surely, that was an unintended
side-effect? Except if you are Irish. The Irish and potatoes go back a
long way.

U are wot u eat, me old root veg.

All flesh is grass.

[CDB]

Post by Peter Moylan

Post by CDB
[misplaced modifier]

Post by occam

Post by b***@shaw.ca
Always keep in mind that this is alt-usage.english. This is
totally on-topic.

I know what you wrote and what your intended ambiguity was. What
I did not expect was that anyone would identify themselves as
'potato-based'. My *diet* may be potato-based, but I would never
describe myself as 'potato-based'. Surely, that was an
unintended side-effect? Except if you are Irish. The Irish and
potatoes go back a long way.

U are wot u eat, me old root veg.

All flesh is grass.

We R wot we smoke?

I remember a short story, possibly from the National Lampoon in the '70s
or '80s, about alien visitors who defecated pleasant-smelling green
pellets. Turned out to be real good shit.

[b***@shaw.ca]

Post by occam

Post by b***@shaw.ca

Post by occam

Post by b***@shaw.ca

Post by Chrysi Cat

Post by Lewis
If you distill too many times, you will strip out all the flavor and end
up with a NGS (neutral Grain Spirit) which you could have gotten to a
lot more simply in a single run.
Anything over three is probably a bad idea, and three is rarely
necessary unless you are making vodka and you don;t have a goo filter.

<snip>
Is that a "missing-d" typo, or did you literally mean to filter out goo?
(Being potato-based, I suppose the latter is possible).

It should be pointed out that this is alt.usage-english, and that
we are all surprised that you are potato-based.

Do you see what you did there, bill? One smart comment and you
<whooshed!> a food discussion sub-thread into existence. You have to use
your wit more responsibly if future.

Not at all. I intended for "Chrysi Cat" to realize that what she (educatedly guessing) actually said was, "I, being potato-based, suppose the later is possible."
If she can see that, progress is possible. What I think she meant is,
"Vodka being potato-based, the latter is possible." It was a simple case
of a messed-up modifier.
Always keep in mind that this is alt-usage.english. This is totally
on-topic.

I know what you wrote and what your intended ambiguity was. What I did
not expect was that anyone would identify themselves as 'potato-based'.
My *diet* may be potato-based, but I would never describe myself as
'potato-based'. Surely, that was an unintended side-effect? Except if
you are Irish. The Irish and potatoes go back a long way.

Of course no one would identify themselves as potato-based, except perhaps
in jest. It was a simple error, as I've said. This is alt.usage-english,
and pointing things like that out is on-topic here. But enough already.
If you're concerned that Kat might be embarrassed by it, you're only
making it worse by belabouring the point.

bill

[Kerr-Mudd,John]

Post by b***@shaw.ca

Post by occam

Post by b***@shaw.ca

Post by occam

Post by b***@shaw.ca

Post by Chrysi Cat

Post by Lewis
If you distill too many times, you will strip out all the
flavor and end up with a NGS (neutral Grain Spirit) which you
could have gotten to a lot more simply in a single run.
Anything over three is probably a bad idea, and three is rarely
necessary unless you are making vodka and you don;t have a goo filter.

<snip>
Is that a "missing-d" typo, or did you literally mean to filter out goo?
(Being potato-based, I suppose the latter is possible).

It should be pointed out that this is alt.usage-english, and that
we are all surprised that you are potato-based.

Do you see what you did there, bill? One smart comment and you
<whooshed!> a food discussion sub-thread into existence. You have
to use your wit more responsibly if future.

Not at all. I intended for "Chrysi Cat" to realize that what she
(educatedly guessing) actually said was, "I, being potato-based,
suppose the later is possible."
If she can see that, progress is possible. What I think she meant
is, "Vodka being potato-based, the latter is possible." It was a
simple case of a messed-up modifier.
Always keep in mind that this is alt-usage.english. This is totally
on-topic.

I know what you wrote and what your intended ambiguity was. What I
did not expect was that anyone would identify themselves as
'potato-based'. My *diet* may be potato-based, but I would never
describe myself as 'potato-based'. Surely, that was an unintended
side-effect? Except if you are Irish. The Irish and potatoes go back
a long way.

Of course no one would identify themselves as potato-based, except
perhaps in jest. It was a simple error, as I've said. This is
alt.usage-english, and pointing things like that out is on-topic here.
But enough already. If you're concerned that Kat might be embarrassed
by it, you're only making it worse by belabouring the point.
bill

*I'm* Sparta Brush!

https://wowonsales.com/Serving-Bowls-Costa-Nova/carlisle-food-service-
products-spartaa-potato-brush-with-medium-stiff-polyester-bristles-set-
of-12-cfsp1530-1638057-gSYUmzsWA.29501QfOGENqv.html

[Adam Funk]

Post by b***@shaw.ca

Post by occam

Post by b***@shaw.ca

Post by Chrysi Cat

Post by Lewis
If you distill too many times, you will strip out all the flavor and end
up with a NGS (neutral Grain Spirit) which you could have gotten to a
lot more simply in a single run.
Anything over three is probably a bad idea, and three is rarely
necessary unless you are making vodka and you don;t have a goo filter.

<snip>
Is that a "missing-d" typo, or did you literally mean to filter out goo?
(Being potato-based, I suppose the latter is possible).

It should be pointed out that this is alt.usage-english, and that
we are all surprised that you are potato-based.

Do you see what you did there, bill? One smart comment and you
<whooshed!> a food discussion sub-thread into existence. You have to use
your wit more responsibly if future.

Not at all. I intended for "Chrysi Cat" to realize that what she (educatedly guessing) actually said was, "I, being potato-based, suppose the later is possible."
If she can see that, progress is possible. What I think she meant is,
"Vodka being potato-based, the latter is possible." It was a simple case
of a messed-up modifier.
Always keep in mind that this is alt-usage.english. This is totally
on-topic.

I've previously said that "lunch is always on topic in AUE", but vodka
is not what I had in mind.

[Lewis]

Post by b***@shaw.ca

Post by occam

Post by b***@shaw.ca

Post by Chrysi Cat

Post by Lewis
If you distill too many times, you will strip out all the flavor and end
up with a NGS (neutral Grain Spirit) which you could have gotten to a
lot more simply in a single run.
Anything over three is probably a bad idea, and three is rarely
necessary unless you are making vodka and you don;t have a goo filter.

<snip>
Is that a "missing-d" typo, or did you literally mean to filter out goo?
(Being potato-based, I suppose the latter is possible).

It should be pointed out that this is alt.usage-english, and that
we are all surprised that you are potato-based.

Do you see what you did there, bill? One smart comment and you
<whooshed!> a food discussion sub-thread into existence. You have to use
your wit more responsibly if future.

Not at all. I intended for "Chrysi Cat" to realize that what she (educatedly guessing) actually said was, "I, being potato-based, suppose the later is possible."
If she can see that, progress is possible. What I think she meant is,
"Vodka being potato-based, the latter is possible." It was a simple case
of a messed-up modifier.
Always keep in mind that this is alt-usage.english. This is totally
on-topic.

Food and sheep are also totally on-topic, per numerous ruling of the
Committee.

[Kerr-Mudd,John]

Post by occam

Post by b***@shaw.ca

Post by Chrysi Cat

Post by Lewis
If you distill too many times, you will strip out all the flavor
and end up with a NGS (neutral Grain Spirit) which you could have
gotten to a lot more simply in a single run.
Anything over three is probably a bad idea, and three is rarely
necessary unless you are making vodka and you don;t have a goo filter.

<snip>
Is that a "missing-d" typo, or did you literally mean to filter out goo?
(Being potato-based, I suppose the latter is possible).

It should be pointed out that this is alt.usage-english, and that
we are all surprised that you are potato-based.

Do you see what you did there, bill? One smart comment and you
<whooshed!> a food discussion sub-thread into existence. You have to
use your wit more responsibly if future.

Pringles, Hula Hoops - erm Quavers - what other extruded potato starch
snacks are there?

[Snidely]

Kerr-Mudd,John pounded on thar keyboard to tell us

Post by Kerr-Mudd,John

Post by occam

Post by b***@shaw.ca

Post by Chrysi Cat

Post by Lewis
If you distill too many times, you will strip out all the flavor
and end up with a NGS (neutral Grain Spirit) which you could have
gotten to a lot more simply in a single run.
Anything over three is probably a bad idea, and three is rarely
necessary unless you are making vodka and you don;t have a goo filter.

<snip>
Is that a "missing-d" typo, or did you literally mean to filter out goo?
(Being potato-based, I suppose the latter is possible).

It should be pointed out that this is alt.usage-english, and that
we are all surprised that you are potato-based.

Do you see what you did there, bill? One smart comment and you
<whooshed!> a food discussion sub-thread into existence. You have to
use your wit more responsibly if future.

Pringles, Hula Hoops - erm Quavers - what other extruded potato starch
snacks are there?

Over Here, there was a crispy, crunchy pomme frite that was extruded
potato starch. Name included "Pic" as far as I can recall, which INVF.
I'm about to press "send" to help me remember.

Have you no Snap Peas? Extruded legume starch. Salt added. As is the
"better for you" implication.

/dps "look ye also for extruded cauliflower starch product"

[Steve Hayes]

Post by RH Draney

Post by Steve Hayes
We are told that some alcoholic liquors are better than others because
they are "triple distilled". Well, go twice more and what do you get?

Another day plastered and deeper in debt....r

With 16 tons of cognac for sale I'd be laughing all the way to the
bank, except that we're not allowed to sell it during the lockdown.

[occam]

Post by Steve Hayes

Post by RH Draney

Post by Steve Hayes
We are told that some alcoholic liquors are better than others because
they are "triple distilled". Well, go twice more and what do you get?

Another day plastered and deeper in debt....r

With 16 tons of cognac for sale I'd be laughing all the way to the
bank, except that we're not allowed to sell it during the lockdown.

What, not even as a disinfectant or anti-bacterial solution that can be
administered internally? Something wrong with your marketing strategy!

[Peter T. Daniels]

Post by occam

Post by Steve Hayes
With 16 tons of cognac for sale I'd be laughing all the way to the
bank, except that we're not allowed to sell it during the lockdown.

What, not even as a disinfectant or anti-bacterial solution that can be
administered internally? Something wrong with your marketing strategy!

That's _bleach_. Don't you pay attention to the president?

[Jerry Friedman]

Post by Steve Hayes

Post by occam
What is the difference between the "essence" and "quintessence"?

It is the Platonic ideal of the essence, the essence above the essence,
the essence of the essence, if you like.
We are told that some alcoholic liquors are better than others because
they are "triple distilled". Well, go twice more and what do you get?

Not quintessence. See other replies.

Post by Steve Hayes
It turns brandy into cognac, for which you can charge more.

Cognac is distilled twice, but what makes it cognac is that it's from
Cognac. Wikipedia says that all South African brandies are, by law,
distilled twice.

[Ken Blake]

Post by Jerry Friedman

Post by Steve Hayes

Post by occam
What is the difference between the "essence" and "quintessence"?

It is the Platonic ideal of the essence, the essence above the essence,
the essence of the essence, if you like.
We are told that some alcoholic liquors are better than others because
they are "triple distilled". Well, go twice more and what do you get?

Not quintessence. See other replies.

Post by Steve Hayes
It turns brandy into cognac, for which you can charge more.

Cognac is distilled twice, but what makes it cognac is that it's from
Cognac.

Right. I was about to post the same thing,

[Sam Plusnet]

Post by Jerry Friedman
Cognac is distilled twice, but what makes it cognac is that it's from
Cognac.

As opposed to the other stuff from Condom - but they don't call it that.

[Ken Blake]

Post by Sam Plusnet

Post by Jerry Friedman
Cognac is distilled twice, but what makes it cognac is that it's from
Cognac.

As opposed to the other stuff from Condom - but they don't call it that.

Not just Armagnac. As opposed to many other brandies from all over
France, as well as from other countries.