Who'd heed 'hood HUD head had hoed, hawed, & hid his hod?

[T. Z.]

(The sentense seems better with "his" in it)

The vowels I missed were Schwa, Barred i, and [a:] the
vowel in father&calm.

I don't think there's a word that's pronounced [ha:d]
in standard American English.

(Btw, [a] and [a:] are never contrastive, right?
I smell a linguistic anecdote.)

Maybe someone can make a longer sentence including
these, diphthongs, Heard, Hard, Horde, etc.
______________

hod
Etymology: probably from Middle Dutch hodde; akin to
Middle High German hotte cradle
1 : a tray or trough that has a pole handle and that
is borne on the shoulder for carrying loads (as of
mortar or brick)
2 : a coal scuttle
[hod illustration] http://m-w.com/mw/art/hod.htm





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[Areff]

Post by T. Z.
I don't think there's a word that's pronounced [ha:d]
in standard American English.

By Ray Wise's definition of standard AmE there is. [ha:d] is "hide" in
Southern-accented AmE, "hard" in non-rhotic Eastern New England AmE, and
"hod" in Upper Midwestern AmE.

[m***@my-deja.com]

Post by Areff

Post by T. Z.
I don't think there's a word that's pronounced [ha:d]
in standard American English.

By Ray Wise's definition of standard AmE there is. [ha:d] is "hide" in
Southern-accented AmE, "hard" in non-rhotic Eastern New England AmE, and
"hod" in Upper Midwestern AmE.

I won't comment upon the pronunciation of "hod" in Upper Midwestern
AmE, because discussions of vowels are one of my least favorite things.
But I'd like to point out that my definition of "Standard American
English"--and it's not original with me--is of a standard dialect
without an associated standard accent.

It goes without saying that T. Z. must have had some other idea in mind
when he referred to "standard American English."


--
Raymond S. Wise
Minneapolis, Minnesota USA

E-mail: mplsray @ yahoo . com

[Peter T. Daniels]

Post by T. Z.
(The sentense seems better with "his" in it)
The vowels I missed were Schwa, Barred i, and [a:] the
vowel in father&calm.
I don't think there's a word that's pronounced [ha:d]
in standard American English.
(Btw, [a] and [a:] are never contrastive, right?
I smell a linguistic anecdote.)

Length isn't phonemic in English generally. If there were two words
distinguished only by vowel length, it would turn out to be a
side-effect of something else, such as r-deletion or "voicing" of the
following obstruent.